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khirkhib
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« on: July 16, 2004, 11:41:09 AM »

I learned recently that on one ocassion Kerry flew into Washington to vote on vetrens benefits bill but was denied the opportunity.  

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/22/kerry.senate.vote/

Kerry frustrated by GOP-postponed vote

Tuesday, June 22, 2004 Posted: 11:10 PM EDT (0310 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry jumped off the presidential campaign trail Tuesday so he could vote for a measure funding health care benefits for veterans -- only to watch Republican leaders postpone the vote.

The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee denounced their move as "politics at its silliest."

For the past month, GOP leaders have engaged in political gamesmanship with Kerry over his dual roles as senator and candidate.

Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, charged that Tuesday's delay -- on a proposed Democratic amendment to a defense spending bill to fund veterans' health care -- was but the latest example.

Republicans insisted that they delayed the vote because a time agreement had not yet been reached with Democrats for debate on the defense bill.

But Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, noted that he was not happy about Kerry -- who has missed about 80 percent of the Senate's floor votes during his presidential campaign -- deciding to "parachute" in to vote on the veterans' issue.

Kerry, a Vietnam veteran, has made an appeal to veterans a major point of his campaign, and he has criticized the Bush administration for not adequately funding benefits and health care for veterans.

Anticipating Tuesday's vote, he canceled several campaign events in New Mexico and returned to the capital to wait for the roll call that never came.

"It's politics at its silliest," he told CNN. "It speaks for itself."

Last month, a proposal to extend unemployment benefits to jobless Americans -- which Democrats had championed for months -- fell one vote short of passage, while Kerry was campaigning in Kentucky.

President Bush's re-election campaign jumped on the missed vote, saying Kerry was "too busy playing politics" to do his job.

But Kerry accused Republicans of "playing a game," saying one of the 11 GOP senators who voted for the measure would have switched sides to defeat it if he had been there to vote for it.

Then, last week, another Democratic proposal to make war profiteering a crime failed by two votes. Kerry was in the Capitol just a short distance from the floor at a meeting, but he did not vote.

A senior Democratic aide said he had made a decision not to cast votes unless absolutely necessary to prevent Republicans from engineering close votes to highlight his absences.

GOP aides conceded that even if Kerry had voted for the war profiteering measure, Republicans would have switched their votes to make sure it failed anyway.

The two top Republicans in Kerry's home state of Massachusetts, Gov. Mitt Romney and Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey, have called on Kerry to resign his seat, saying he wasn't adequately representing the state in the Senate.

Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, who resigned his Kansas seat to run for president in 1996, also said he thinks Kerry should consider that step.

But Kerry has rejected those suggestions, insisting that he is serving his constituents.

Democrats also note that if he were to resign, Romney would get to appoint his replacement, although the Massachusetts Legislature is considering a bill to strip the governor of that power and fill the post with a special election.
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khirkhib
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 12:35:42 PM »

Because most of the votes were safe.  

Lets break this down to its logical parts and we have discussed this so many times here that I hope we can drop it soon.  I'm just going to phrase the statement once for Kerry but the same applies for Edwards

Statement:

John Kerry should resign because he isn't serving his constituency as a US Senator by participating in votes and discussion at the US Senate.

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The statement however has many weaknesses.

1. Are John Kerry's constituents dissatisified with John Kerry's service?

2. Is John Kerry not doing his job by not participating in votes?

The Senate as a whole has many duties and responsibilities. Some of these include writing and passing laws, approving many presidential appointments, and ratifying treaties with other countries. In addition, individual Senators play many roles. These roles include being official members of the government, representing the people that elected them, and being members of a political party

The role of a senator isn't just about voting because senators also have other roles.  One of those roles right now is running for President.  And we can assume that he is putting together legislation right now for implementation when he becomes president.

3.  Would John Kerry be able to do the job of voting?

I'm hoping you don't think that John Kerry doesn't have to sit in the hall of senate 8 hours a day.  Most of the senators do not spend most of their time in their and generally go in for the important votes.  Since the time of the vote is easily changable they could push an important vote back for days if Kerry did come in to vote for it so the only way for Kerry to be able to come into vote would be if he did not campaign.

I'm sure you would be psyched if Kerry did not campaign at all but his constituents would not be so by not campaigning he wouldn't be doing his job either.  

And you would also be happy if he resigned but he would be replaced by republican and would be hurting his cause  and his constiuents wouldn't be happy.  

So really the only thing that he can do to keep his constituents and the people that are going to vote for him to become President is to stay in the senate.  So no he shouldn't resign.  Yes he is doing his job.  Just like Bush is doing his job by campaigning because he is promoting his agenda meeting people and creating legislation.  

So please let this idiotic debate cease.
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