New Zealand's Prime Minister favors changing the flag

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Like many here, I like Lockwood's proposal.  The use of the colors of the Union Jack is a sufficient nod to New Zealand's European history.

I'd rather they keep their current flag, but if they must insist on changing it, this would definitely be my top choice, especially if the Tino Rangatiratanga doesn't get more appeal beyond the Maori.

Good; hopefully Australia follows suit in picking a flag which reflects their nation, not their past under London.

As far as Australia goes, the problem they have is that most of their alternatives are awful, enough to make their current flag look beautiful by comparison.  

This is quite possibly the only one that actually looks half-way decent:

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At the end of it all, with respect to New Zealand and Australia if you re-design a national flag you have to remember it's a flag, not a sports banner, or tourist board logo (which is what that kangaroo one reminds me of) The 'Ausflag 2000 design get's it right and keeps the integrity of the Australian design. PM Helen Clark's simple design for New Zealand get's it right too. Flags that try and incorporate too many colours and too many designs are too busy.

Yeah, the Ausflag 2000 design is my favourite of the bunch.

You mean this one?



or this?

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This flag has won the referendum to become the challenger to the current flag:

Beats the old one!

I like it even better than the existing flag -but what do the Kiwis themselves think, I wonder?