Apparently "Mock Parliment" is trying to put the final nail in the coffin?

[Leinad]

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I'll certainly do what I can to keep this from passing when the others decide to vote on it, but I'm concerned. I encourage pro-Atlasians like Lumine to run for office in "South America" (still wish it was "Sudamerica") partially so we can stop this silliness.

I guess it's good to give people the benefit of the doubt, but Talleyrand and Al (one of the first to jump in defense of it when I objected) were two of the most pro-killing-Atlasia (not dissolution with plans to return, but just killing it), so it's not too much of a stretch to say that it is some kind of anti-Atlasian scheme now is it?

I am glad that I stopped it from passing the first go around, let's just hope myself and others can stop it the second time around.

[Leinad]

To me, it's incomprehensible how everyone is in conclusion that we need to reduce the number of regions--be it 4, 3 or even 2--but people can think that we can maintain two games without allowing willing players to be active in both?

I get the argument, but around 10 or more Atlasian officeholders are also in the Mock Parliament. This means lots of people who could be active in South America will decide not to be (making it harder to grow), lots of Atlasian officeholders are forced to resign in a crippling exodus (as Adam says, putting the final nail in the coffin), or both.

Again, I totally understand the idea behind it. Diplomatic relations would theoretically solve the vacuum problem--again, if we had enough members for two semi-healthy games. But it's not worth the mutually assured destruction it would cause in this current environment.

[Leinad]

The coffin is already nailed shut.

Actually it isn't we actually have committed players ie: myself, Cris, Leinad, Kal, Truman etc.

SWE continues to insist that communism works despite all the evidence to the contrary, so why would Atlasia be any different?

But I'm not suggesting Atlasia still works?

I think Truman's point is that you insist communism works, against evidence otherwise, so it's no surprise that you insist Atlasia is dead, against evidence otherwise. Or maybe I've misunderstood him.

[Leinad]

ITT people in a dead game complaining about a new, better game that isn't full of morons debating whether or not dog meat should be legal

How can people in a dead game complain about anything? Or even say anything? It's certainly quite ill, but in no way is it "dead." Dead would mean a complete void of any activity whatsoever, which is false. You can certainly have the opinion that it's not fun anymore, in which case you made the right decision to leave. But saying it's dead just because you don't like it is equivalent to me saying John McCain is no longer in the Senate.

Some of us should be able to choose to enjoy both games, or only one, or neither of them, without people wasting time to talk about how bad the other game is. The only thing as destructive to both games as the officeholding ban measure discussed here is if the games are involved in some kind of petty feud of insults.

Maybe I'm just a silly libertarian--maybe it's best to tell other people what's fun and what isn't, how to spend their time and how not to--but in my opinion we need to do our thing, let other people do theirs, have fun, and that's how both games will, hopefully, thrive. (Or at least be bearable enough to kill some time with every day.)