Does Huckabee have a chance in any of these places?
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Question: Pick which ones you think he has a chance in hell in
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New Hampshire
 
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Washington
 
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Michigan
 
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« on: May 05, 2009, 07:24:21 PM »

Just bored.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 07:29:44 PM »

You forgot NOTA.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 08:27:04 PM »


and nova!
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 08:48:52 PM »

AZ and an outside one at best.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 08:59:49 PM »

Arizona, and only Arizona.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 01:00:56 AM »

Arizona, and even that is not likely.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 06:14:23 AM »



Arizona only because it is likely to be +4 R (others are +4 D or higher). Huckabee has no particular reason to have any particular appeal in Arizona, which is more like Colorado than like any of the Southeastern states. Other states can go to him only if Obama has a catastrophically-bad Presidency, and that is a high-risk gamble for the GOP (not to mention America on the whole).

As a southern right-winger Huckabee has no reasonable chance to win any State in the Blue Firewall in 2012. Although the number of electoral votes from states that haven't voted for a Republican nominee since 1988 will be down to about 240 through reapportionment of House seats after the 2010 Census, such is still 90% of the level of electoral vote necessary for a Democratic win. Huckabee has no particular affinity for IA, NH, or NM, either. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 12:42:02 PM »

Arizona, and even that is not likely.

Obama could pick up Arizona in 2012 without making any progress. Reason: John McCain won it with a margin smaller than the usual difference that a Favorite Son makes. States most similar politically to Arizona are Colorado and Nevada. Without that edge the GOP loses Arizona.

Obama is less likely to win Indiana or North Carolina than Arizona the next time around.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 08:29:49 PM »

Arizona, in the absence of "none of the above." It'd be funny to see his collapse in metro Phoenix.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 09:39:54 PM »

Arizona, and even that is not likely.

Obama could pick up Arizona in 2012 without making any progress. Reason: John McCain won it with a margin smaller than the usual difference that a Favorite Son makes. States most similar politically to Arizona are Colorado and Nevada. Without that edge the GOP loses Arizona.

How about favorite son Gore in Tennessee?
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 02:36:57 AM »

Didn't Gore lead in Tennesse for most of the campaign? We have no polling information for that election here beyond who was ahead.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 03:56:46 AM »

Arizona, and even that is not likely.

Obama could pick up Arizona in 2012 without making any progress. Reason: John McCain won it with a margin smaller than the usual difference that a Favorite Son makes. States most similar politically to Arizona are Colorado and Nevada. Without that edge the GOP loses Arizona.

How about favorite son Gore in Tennessee?

We saw in 2004 and 2008 how well a non-favorite son Democrat performed there.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 05:17:21 AM »

Arizona, and even that is not likely.

Obama could pick up Arizona in 2012 without making any progress. Reason: John McCain won it with a margin smaller than the usual difference that a Favorite Son makes. States most similar politically to Arizona are Colorado and Nevada. Without that edge the GOP loses Arizona.

How about favorite son Gore in Tennessee?

Tennessee used to be safe for a Democrat; now it is safe for a Republican. White people with low incomes are the only growing constituency for the GOP, at least as of November 2008, and Southern states have lots of them. They used to be New Deal Democrats.. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2009, 01:00:16 AM »

Arizona, and even that is not likely.

Obama could pick up Arizona in 2012 without making any progress. Reason: John McCain won it with a margin smaller than the usual difference that a Favorite Son makes. States most similar politically to Arizona are Colorado and Nevada. Without that edge the GOP loses Arizona.

How about favorite son Gore in Tennessee?

About an 8 point trend between 2000 and 2004, and Gore hadn't been the state's Senator for 8 years.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2009, 01:16:32 AM »

     Arizona due to the lack of a NOTA option. I do not seriously believe that he has a shot at Arizona.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2009, 03:24:26 AM »

I agree with everyone, Arizona and even that will be a longshot for him. Simply put, the influx of Latinos is making the state bluer and there aren't many social conservatives in Arizona that would propel him to a victory here, and even in a good year for Republicans I still don't see him carrying any of the other states mentioned with the exception of Pennsylvania and that's a big "if."
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2009, 04:04:26 AM »

Primary or general?
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2009, 05:13:50 AM »
« Edited: May 09, 2009, 05:17:47 AM by Lunar »

Huckabee, because he seems to be unwilling to compromise on the issues for political gain, has no chance at any of those states without Obama being crazy unpopular, but we'll see.

Arizona, and even that is not likely.

Obama could pick up Arizona in 2012 without making any progress. Reason: John McCain won it with a margin smaller than the usual difference that a Favorite Son makes. States most similar politically to Arizona are Colorado and Nevada. Without that edge the GOP loses Arizona.

How about favorite son Gore in Tennessee?

About an 8 point trend between 2000 and 2004, and Gore hadn't been the state's Senator for 8 years.

This is correct.  Gore liberalized since his promotion from Senator too, no?  He was not "Senator Gore from Tennessee" running for president, he was "Vice President Gore," that makes a big diff.  And, as difficult it is for people on this forum to realize, sometimes campaigns matter. Smiley

I mean, hell, Mitt Romney wouldn't have a remote chance to win in MA, but that doesn't mean McCain did't strongly overperform in the state.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2009, 12:04:25 PM »

He has no chance in WI, NJ, NH and perhaps Arizona are a little too err... Catholic for Huckabee. He would almost certainly lose PA, which could also be offset by a poor Obama presidency combined with a great ground game.

The others are too anti-social conservative.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2009, 09:03:37 PM »

Minnesota- no         
Arizona- most likely, but still no         
Oregon- absolutely not          
New Hampshire- no         
New Jersey- why is this even on here?         
Pennsylvania- no         
Maine- no chance         
Wisconsin- no     
Washington- this shouldn't be on the list!    
Michigan- no.

In all fairness, you'd need to add more republican states besides Arizona to get even close to a yes.
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2009, 09:55:16 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2009, 09:03:21 PM by pbrower2a »

Minnesota         Only if Hubert Humphrey becomes a political villain here.
Arizona                 Best chance, but still slight
Oregon                 East of the Cascades, where the people aren't
New Hampshire    He won't buck the Dem trend here
New Jersey         Will take miracles or disasters, depending on taste
Pennsylvania         Only in rural areas, which will be far from enough
Maine                 No affinity and no victory
Wisconsin         Only if Joseph R. McCarthy becomes popular again.
Washington         Same as Oregon
Michigan                 Only if Obama insists on a Mercedes-Benz as a Presidential limousine
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2009, 06:57:26 AM »

Minnesota- no         
Arizona- most likely, but still no         
Oregon- absolutely not          
New Hampshire- no         
New Jersey- why is this even on here?         
Pennsylvania- no         
Maine- no chance         
Wisconsin- no     
Washington- this shouldn't be on the list!    
Michigan- no.

In all fairness, you'd need to add more republican states besides Arizona to get even close to a yes.

I was just putting out random states, I wasn't really going for close ones.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2009, 03:09:47 PM »

New Jersey would have been more appropriate for someone who is less socially conservative. Same goes with New Hampshire, Maine, Wisconsin, and even Arizona (he is just too authoritarian/populist for them).
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2009, 09:08:41 PM »

How about a different set of states:

Indiana
Virginia
Montana
North Dakota
South Dakota
North Carolina
Missouri
Florida
Ohio
Georgia
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