Swann Donated to Kerry in '97

[Keystone Phil]

Yeah I'm not thrilled about it and he also gave to Specter.

However, if Piccola and Scranton want to make this an issue, Swann can show every Republican the pictures of him campaigning for the President. He is the President's Director of the Council on Physical Fitness.

[Keystone Phil]

ok, I donated to Hoeffel's campaign.  Big deal

I'm crushed.

[Keystone Phil]

I have only recently gotten involved in any national politics (thanks to my Vice President), and now am looking into the Pennsylvania Gubernatorial race where it looks like Swann is quite an electable man who could be Governor Rendell. I see that the PA Dems are afraid of Swann, and they are pulling out insignifigant crud like this to discredit him.

Actually the PA Dems are so confident that Rendell can pretty much beat anyone but they'll be in for a big surprise. I'd say they would be most concerned about Swann though.

[Keystone Phil]

I have only recently gotten involved in any national politics (thanks to my Vice President), and now am looking into the Pennsylvania Gubernatorial race where it looks like Swann is quite an electable man who could be Governor Rendell. I see that the PA Dems are afraid of Swann, and they are pulling out insignifigant crud like this to discredit him.

Actually the PA Dems are so confident that Rendell can pretty much beat anyone but they'll be in for a big surprise. I'd say they would be most concerned about Swann though.

Also, I forgot to add, that his primary opponents, two rather liberal Republicans, are the ones bringing this up. They must forget all the campaigning Swann did for the President here and the fact that he heads the President's Fitness Council. Also, I'm sure Swann will show this picture a few times during the campaign...

[Keystone Phil]

I have only recently gotten involved in any national politics (thanks to my Vice President), and now am looking into the Pennsylvania Gubernatorial race where it looks like Swann is quite an electable man who could be Governor Rendell. I see that the PA Dems are afraid of Swann, and they are pulling out insignifigant crud like this to discredit him.

Actually the PA Dems are so confident that Rendell can pretty much beat anyone but they'll be in for a big surprise. I'd say they would be most concerned about Swann though.

You know what, I just broke my promise to myself to never post under any Pennsylvania related topics!

You're sucked in now!

[Keystone Phil]

I have only recently gotten involved in any national politics (thanks to my Vice President), and now am looking into the Pennsylvania Gubernatorial race where it looks like Swann is quite an electable man who could be Governor Rendell. I see that the PA Dems are afraid of Swann, and they are pulling out insignifigant crud like this to discredit him.

Actually the PA Dems are so confident that Rendell can pretty much beat anyone but they'll be in for a big surprise. I'd say they would be most concerned about Swann though.

Also, I forgot to add, that his primary opponents, two rather liberal Republicans, are the ones bringing this up. They must forget all the campaigning Swann did for the President here and the fact that he heads the President's Fitness Council. Also, I'm sure Swann will show this picture a few times during the campaign...

Piccola is a conservative?!?

I just stated that he is not.

[Keystone Phil]

I have only recently gotten involved in any national politics (thanks to my Vice President), and now am looking into the Pennsylvania Gubernatorial race where it looks like Swann is quite an electable man who could be Governor Rendell. I see that the PA Dems are afraid of Swann, and they are pulling out insignifigant crud like this to discredit him.

Actually the PA Dems are so confident that Rendell can pretty much beat anyone but they'll be in for a big surprise. I'd say they would be most concerned about Swann though.

Also, I forgot to add, that his primary opponents, two rather liberal Republicans, are the ones bringing this up. They must forget all the campaigning Swann did for the President here and the fact that he heads the President's Fitness Council. Also, I'm sure Swann will show this picture a few times during the campaign...

Piccola is a conservative?!?

I just stated that he is not.

Ooops, mean't to say ISN'T? He's the most conservative one running for the nomination!

No he isn't. Swann is clearly the most conservative. Piccola has been seen as a RINO by many.

[Keystone Phil]

ok, I donated to Hoeffel's campaign.  Big deal

I'm crushed.

*secretly puts envelope filed with cash addressed to Re-elect Allyson Schwartz '06, Inc. in mailbox*

Yeah...that's worse. 

[Keystone Phil]

I have only recently gotten involved in any national politics (thanks to my Vice President), and now am looking into the Pennsylvania Gubernatorial race where it looks like Swann is quite an electable man who could be Governor Rendell. I see that the PA Dems are afraid of Swann, and they are pulling out insignifigant crud like this to discredit him.

Actually the PA Dems are so confident that Rendell can pretty much beat anyone but they'll be in for a big surprise. I'd say they would be most concerned about Swann though.

Also, I forgot to add, that his primary opponents, two rather liberal Republicans, are the ones bringing this up. They must forget all the campaigning Swann did for the President here and the fact that he heads the President's Fitness Council. Also, I'm sure Swann will show this picture a few times during the campaign...

Piccola is a conservative?!?

I just stated that he is not.

Ooops, mean't to say ISN'T? He's the most conservative one running for the nomination!

No he isn't. Swann is clearly the most conservative. Piccola has been seen as a RINO by many.

We don't even know where Swann is politically. We do know that he supported Specter and gave money to John Kerry.  Piccola has spearheaded the opposition to just about every Rendell initiative in the state senate.

Piccola has actually supported Rendell spending proposals. Also, when it comes to where Swann stands, we do know this...  http://www.grassrootspa.com/2005/01/swann-pro-life-pro-gun-anti-tax-pro.html

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

No sh*t sherlock. Didn't I point this out weeks ago and you said "no he's been pro-life for years"?

Why do you get so angry? You must have some temper problems.

Anyway, I have never said Jeff Piccola has been Pro Life for years. Never. You must have been talking to someone else.

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

No sh*t sherlock. Didn't I point this out weeks ago and you said "no he's been pro-life for years"?

Why do you get so angry? You must have some temper problems.

Anyway, I have never said Jeff Piccola has been Pro Life for years. Never. You must have been talking to someone else.

No, but you quoted an article that said he had ....you agreed with it I'm sure. You're just as bad as him. On second you're supporting the guy as a pro-life conservative, but the second I start calling him that all of the sudden he's liberal among the likes of Scranton.

So let me ask you this, if abortion is such a litmus test which you claim it is (with Casey and now Piccola)....Is Swann the most conservative candidate when he donated to John Kerry, supported Specter and is pro-choice? Versus Piccola who is the pro-life majority whip in the state senate and has spearheaded the Republican effort to destroy any initiative by Rendell?

No, moron, I was going crazy over the fact that the article said Piccola was conservative. By the way, I've never supported Piccola. I don't know how you can make this stuff up.

I never claim abortion is a litmus test. You asked for a liberal position, I gave it. Don't twist my words.

Also, you need to read up on some stuff. Swann is the most conservative candidate and is Pro Life. He is not Pro Choice. When it comes to Piccola, he has actually stood with the Governor on spending issues so I really don't think you know what you're talking about.

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

No sh*t sherlock. Didn't I point this out weeks ago and you said "no he's been pro-life for years"?

Why do you get so angry? You must have some temper problems.

Anyway, I have never said Jeff Piccola has been Pro Life for years. Never. You must have been talking to someone else.

No, but you quoted an article that said he had ....you agreed with it I'm sure. You're just as bad as him. On second you're supporting the guy as a pro-life conservative, but the second I start calling him that all of the sudden he's liberal among the likes of Scranton.

Hey clown...here you go.

http://www.draftswann.com

Check out the second story on the site. Terry Modonna, who is supposed to be the best political analyst in the state, says that Piccola represents the conservative wing of the GOP in the primary. What a joke. I'm beginning to lose respect for Mr. Modonna.

Try following what I actually say. I feel bad correcting you so often.

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

No sh*t sherlock. Didn't I point this out weeks ago and you said "no he's been pro-life for years"?

Why do you get so angry? You must have some temper problems.

Anyway, I have never said Jeff Piccola has been Pro Life for years. Never. You must have been talking to someone else.

No, but you quoted an article that said he had ....you agreed with it I'm sure. You're just as bad as him. On second you're supporting the guy as a pro-life conservative, but the second I start calling him that all of the sudden he's liberal among the likes of Scranton.

Hey clown...here you go.

http://www.draftswann.com

Check out the second story on the site. Terry Modonna, who is supposed to be the best political analyst in the state, says that Piccola represents the conservative wing of the GOP in the primary. What a joke. I'm beginning to lose respect for Mr. Modonna.

Try following what I actually say. I feel bad correcting you so often.

Umm, and what are you implying by that? Anybody with their head screwed on straight would figure that you are saying Piccola doesn't represent the conservative wing of the Republican party, and that Swann is the conservative candidate (when I've clearly shown that he's not).

So you're wrong but don't want to admit it? dan, first off, acknowledge that 1) I never supported Piccola and 2) never agreed with what this article stated. You said I did both. You were wrong.

What I am implying is that Piccola is not the conservative candidate. I was pointing out a clear error by Terry Maddona. Now you haven't proved a thing when it comes to Swann "not being a conservative" because you have a hard time with facts. You claimed he was Pro Choice. Uh...wrong. You're trying for the record, aren't you?

[Keystone Phil]

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

No sh*t sherlock. Didn't I point this out weeks ago and you said "no he's been pro-life for years"?

Why do you get so angry? You must have some temper problems.

Anyway, I have never said Jeff Piccola has been Pro Life for years. Never. You must have been talking to someone else.

No, but you quoted an article that said he had ....you agreed with it I'm sure. You're just as bad as him. On second you're supporting the guy as a pro-life conservative, but the second I start calling him that all of the sudden he's liberal among the likes of Scranton.

Hey clown...here you go.

http://www.draftswann.com

Check out the second story on the site. Terry Modonna, who is supposed to be the best political analyst in the state, says that Piccola represents the conservative wing of the GOP in the primary. What a joke. I'm beginning to lose respect for Mr. Modonna.

Try following what I actually say. I feel bad correcting you so often.

Umm, and what are you implying by that? Anybody with their head screwed on straight would figure that you are saying Piccola doesn't represent the conservative wing of the Republican party, and that Swann is the conservative candidate (when I've clearly shown that he's not).

So you're wrong but don't want to admit it? dan, first off, acknowledge that 1) I never supported Piccola and 2) never agreed with what this article stated. You said I did both. You were wrong.

What I am implying is that Piccola is not the conservative candidate. I was pointing out a clear error by Terry Maddona. Now you haven't proved a thing when it comes to Swann "not being a conservative" because you have a hard time with facts. You claimed he was Pro Choice. Uh...wrong. You're trying for the record, aren't you?

Sorry, I'm gonna go with the number one and most respected political analyst in Pennsylvania and agree that Piccola is the conservative candidate. Sorry.

Aww...so you won't admit that you got my positions wrong? That's ok, Dan. I forgive your stupidity.

[Keystone Phil]

I don't think Swann could beat Rendell anyway.

He's more likely to beat Rendell than the other two.

[Keystone Phil]

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No...see...you have a clear problem when it comes to understanding me. I didn't defend Piccola. I do not see him as the conservative candidate. I never supported him. Would you like me to use the big letters, Danny? Maybe then you'll understand my opinion of Mr. Piccola.

(By the way, you're also wrong about Swann. He's Pro Life.)

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No...see...you have a clear problem when it comes to understanding me. I didn't defend Piccola. I do not see him as the conservative candidate. I never supported him. Would you like me to use the big letters, Danny? Maybe then you'll understand my opinion of Mr. Piccola.

(By the way, you're also wrong about Swann. He's Pro Life.)

You did defend Piccola when I pointed out that he was a flip-flopper. Funny now that you agree with me.

It amazes me the stuff you are saying. Dan, I believe Piccola is a flip flopper, too. You really need to improve your reading skills.

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No...see...you have a clear problem when it comes to understanding me. I didn't defend Piccola. I do not see him as the conservative candidate. I never supported him. Would you like me to use the big letters, Danny? Maybe then you'll understand my opinion of Mr. Piccola.

(By the way, you're also wrong about Swann. He's Pro Life.)

You did defend Piccola when I pointed out that he was a flip-flopper. Funny now that you agree with me.

Name one issue Piccola is liberal or moderate on.

He was in favor of abortion rights but happened to switch a few months ago. His voting record is still seen as a Pro Choice record.

Oh no, according to Piccola he's been pro-life for years.

He's just a political opportunist like Santorum, except Santorum seems to have stronger core beliefs. Every time he runs for re-election, he runs to the left and plays himself as a moderate. His district does after all include the city of Harrisburg and the area around it which is very liberal. As an incumbent he's tough to beat because he can raise money very well, but he knows he's somewhat vulnerable.

The point - Suddenly when there's a race between two Pro Choice candidates (at the time Swann wasn't really in the race yet) Piccola saw that voters wouldn't see much of a difference between the two and would probably go with the more well known candidate (Scranton). Therefore, to attract the strong Pro Life vote, he suddenly thought about his position on the issue again and became "Pro Life."

See Danny? That's me pointing out that he changed his position for political purposes.