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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2007, 09:58:25 AM »

4/18/08: Scandal comes for the Giuliani campaign as both of his ex-wives announce their support for Hillary Clinton.
4/20/08: Joe Lieberman makes a speech at Harvard University concerning bipartisanship. He bitterly criticizes Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani during his speech, and complements Bloomberg for his middle-of-the-road campaign. Here is his approval ratings:

CT Voters:
Approve  71%
Disapprove 19%

National Voters:
Approve 54%
Disapprove 38%

4/24/08: Giuliani receives even more criticism for his ad depicting citizens in the Clinton presidency as clone soldiers.
4/25/08: Giuliani's campaign is scared further when President Bush hinted that he would endorse Giuliani.
4/27/08: After a corruption scnadal from June of last year, Ted Stevens resigns from Congress.
4/29/08: Sarah Palin announces that she will not run for Stevens' seat. She says that she will appoint Sean Parnell to hold the seat until the election.
5/2/08: Belatedly, Giuliani offcially apoligizes for the gaffes of the past two weeks.

To be continued...
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2007, 06:52:15 PM »

5/5/08: Some recent polling:


Tossup=<3% margin
Slight=<6% margin
Lean=<10% margin
Strong=>10% margin

Bloomberg 31%
Clinton 27%
Giuliani 21%

5/7/08: BREAKING NEWS: A terrorist attack has happened on a San Francisco trolley car today as suspected terrorist Mohammed al-Faruni suicide-bombed himself. 36 people were killed in the incident, with another 21 injured.
5/8/08: Gavin Newsom makes a speech about the attack. He commemorates the people who deid in the attack, but said that Bush cannot be doing a good job in foreign policy if this kind of attack has happened on our home soil.
5/10/08: Sean Parnell announces that he will seek reelection as AK Senator. Mike Gravel has left the door open for a run, but will almost certainly face residency issues.
5/12/08: To Giuliani's disappointment, Charlie Crist annouced that he would support Mike Bloomberg.

To be continued...
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2007, 07:10:15 PM »

Yes, Bloomberg's winning Florida. Do you have any information on how the swing states (the gray and also slightly colored states) are tilting?

As a matter of fact, I do. IA, OH, WV, and NV are leaning toward Clinton, WI is leaning toward Bloomberg, and TN is leaning toward Giuliani.


I might be the only one in here but I like to read these what-if posts, they keep me entertained. Keep up the good work Smiley 

Thank you. I always like enocuragement. Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2007, 08:46:48 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2007, 09:42:57 PM by Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative »

5/14/08: An agressive ad campaign ensues as Bloomberg runs ads in key states criticizing Giuliani's record as mayor.
5/16/08: Bloomberg confirms in a speech that, if elected president, he would enstate universal health care.
5/19/08: FoxNews offers to the three major candidates to participate in the first presidential debate on 8/8/08.
5/20/08: Giuliani and Bloomberg quickly accept the invitations to the debate. Clinton has yet to make a decision.
5/22/08: Clinton has made here decision; She will attend the debate. Here is a transcript:

CLINTON: I realize that Fox isn't the most fair and balanced network, but a lot of voters watch it, so I will attend.

5/23/08: Clinton's decision to attend the debate infuriates DNC Chairman Howard Dean. Dean says that if Clinton attends the debate, he will force delegates to withhold their votes for Clinton at the convention.
5/24/08: At the LNC, Gary Johnson officially becomes the Libertarian nominee.
5/25/08: In defending opponent Hillary Clinton, Bloomberg made a speech about Howard Dean's actions:

BLOOMBERG: Howard Dean doesn't seem to realize that 4 Senators left his party last year because of their inability to work with people from the other side of the aisle.

5/26/08: Clinton confirms that she will be attending the debate. She said this about Dean:

CLINTON: I'm not taking advice on how to run a campaign from an outright loser of his last campaign. I think that we really need a new party chairman, who can work well with peole on the other side of the aisle.

5/28/08: Dean confirms that his threats are serious by talking to Barack Obama and Bill Richardson over the possibility of becoming the nominee.

To be continued...
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2007, 09:37:01 PM »

Bloomberg supporting UHC?  Wouldn't that kill his support among economic conservatives?

He supports it in real life, so I figure I should be realistic.
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2007, 10:12:17 PM »

Cool, I'm not the only guy reading this post. Anyways, are there any other third party/independent candidacies? I reckon Gary Johnson was a former Gov. of NM??. I wonder who he chose as VP Cheesy. I'm loving each moment of the post, I like these intense and speculative simulations. I hope you have a surprise for us. Keep it up!

Gary Johnson chose Steve Kubby as his veep. And don't worry; I have a surprise headed for you, though it may offend som Democrats on the forum.
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2007, 09:49:21 AM »

How did you do the white on Senate maps? Did you do it with MSPaint?

No, I just made the Republican/Democrat win by >20%. if you ask, "How do you do that," the answer is simple. All you need to do is change:
AL=2;9;5

to

AL=2;9;2

if Alabama is the state you wish to change.
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2007, 10:11:54 AM »

6/1/08: The state of the race as it is now:
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Tossup=<3% margin
Slight=<6% margin
Lean=<10% margin
Strong=>10% margin

Bloomberg 29%
Clinton 28%
Giuliani 24%

6/2/08: One year from today. Howard Dean announced that he will be holding the DNC annual conference on the 18th.
6/4/08: A recent report reveals the while mayor, Bloomberg may have used tax money to give Bloomberg LP money.
6/5/08: Frustrated with the choices for president, Bill O'reilly flirts with seeking the Constitution Party's nomination.
6/8/08: Due to increased pressure from the DNC, Clinton announces that she will not attend the FoxNews debate, though she stated that it was because the debate would be held before the party conventions.
6/9/08: Due to Clinton's absence from the debate, FoxNews invites Gary Johnson to attend. Johnson accepts the invitation.
6/11/08: Johnson runs the first as of his campaign. His ad boasted that he is the only candidate who supports cannabis legalization.
6/14/08: Craig Thomas dies of leukemia today. He will be buried in the capital on the 15th.


To be continued.....
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2007, 12:24:39 PM »


Thank you. I can assure you that there will be a surprise within the next three to four posts.
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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2007, 07:25:30 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2007, 05:43:26 PM by Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative »

6/15/08: Bill Gates announces that he will donate $2 billion to Bloomberg's campaign.
6/16/08: Dave Fruedenthal appoints Barbara Cubin to Craig's Senate seat.
6/18/08: At the DNC meeting, Howard Dean loses his position as chairman to Evan Bayh.
6/20/08: Joe Lieberman's new book, Stuck Down the Middle, is released.
6/22/08: Joe Lieberman appears on The O'reilly Factor to discuss his new book. Bill O'reilly ultimately gives Lieberman an easy time on the show.
6/25/08: Bill O'reilly announces that he will not run for president, but instead support Giuliani.
6/26/08: Chairman Bayh unveils his new strategy for Democratic success. He says that if the party wants to survive 2010, they will need to appeal to the center more often.
6/27/08: Duncan Hunter holds a meeting with Ben Nelson discussing the vice-presidency. He said that he held the meeting because, "Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it."
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2007, 10:10:05 AM »

6/30/08: Ross Perot, crawling out of the political grave, appears on Meet the Press, and jokingly considers abother Reform Party run.
7/1/08: Bill O'reilly retracts his endorsement of Giuliani and instead supports Perot's potential run.
7/4/08: The Fourth of July. Perot announces that he will once again run for president as a Reformer.
7/6/08: New polls:



Tossup=<3% margin
Slight=<6% margin
Lean=<10% margin
Strong=>10% margin

Clinton 31%
Giuliani 27%
Bloomberg 19%
Perot 5%
Johnson 3%

7/10/08: George Bush also retracts his "support" of Giuliani in favor of Perot.
7/11/08: Perot attends The O'reilly Factor. When asked why he is running, he says:

PEROT: Look, Bill, my campaign has two main issues: the War and CAFTA. So far, non eof the candidates running oppose both. That's why I'm running.

7/13/08: A a campaign stop, someone asks Bloomberg why he switched parties in 2002. He replies:

BLOOMBERG: Well, after 9/11, I came to realize that the Republicans have it right on some issues, like terrorism and taxes.


To be continued....
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2007, 12:17:04 PM »


Do you mean that in a good way or a bad way?
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2007, 07:48:50 PM »

7/15/08: Perot announces that he has found a unning mate for his campaign: Mike Gravel.
7/16/08: Mike Gravel happily accepts the VP nomination.
7/18/08: The Giuliani camp begins an attack campaign against Hillary Clinton. They dig up almost anything they can find, fro corporate scandals to her record as senator and first lady.
7/21/08: The first as of the attack campaign airs on national television during the Simpsons. The ad creates nationwide controversy, with some defending Giuliani and FOX, while other feel that the attack was unprecedented.
7/23/08: In response to the attack ad, the Clinton campaign aired an attack against Giuliani's mayoral record and personal life.
7/26/08: Due to the attack ad controversy, Bloomberg announced that he would sign a "Non-Proliferation Treaty", stating that his campaign wouldn't attack the other candidates unless they attacked first.
7/27/08: Perot also signs the treaty, saying that we don't need to dig up dirt on the two main candidates to realized they are flawed.
7/29/08: Johnson also runs an attack ad criticizing Giuliani, Bloomberg and Clinton for their authoritarian policies on New Mexico public television.
8/2/08: As promised, Bloomberg lauched an attack ad against Johnson. When asked why he ran the attack 3 days after Bloomberg signed the treaty, Johnson said that "negative publicity is better than none."


To be continued...

(Only 1 more update until the Democratic Convention)
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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2007, 09:07:58 PM »

How are the swing states leaning? By the way, Gary Johnson was the Libertarian candidate for President I heard many people talk about. Talk about surprises. By the way, could you possibly show us all the tickets? Also, are the colors the same? I really like this thread. Thanks for your creativity Smiley!!!

Here are the tickets:

Bloomberg/Hagel (CC)
Johnson/Kubby (L)
Perot/Gravel (R)

Also, these three aren't officially the nominees yet, but are expected to be:

Clinton/Richardson (D)
Giuliani/Hunter (R)
Nader/Foster (G)
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« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2007, 05:50:34 PM »

And the gray states or light blue/ light red states are leaning for which candidate?

GIuliani is winning OH and TN
Clinton is winning IA and MO
Bloomberg is winning NE.

be patient, it will come tomorrow.
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2007, 09:50:04 PM »

Cool, I thought it was like that. By the way, what are the best states for Johnson and Perot? I'm loving each second of it Smiley 

Perot's best states are ME and UT, while Johnson's nest states are AK and NM.

yeah--thank you!!  This is very entertaining!

Thank you for the encouragement. This has to be the most popular timeline I've ever made, Smiley

Interesting but I don't understand a few thing about Perot.

1. Simply why would he run? He is 78 years old and he'd fall similarly with Bloomberg with his politics.

2. Why would Perot pick Gravel? Not only is Gravel in his late 70's but they are miles apart on their politics. I can't see the logic there.

Nevertheless, please continue. It's pretty good!

1. Perot wants to make a last stand in politics.
2. Perot liked the theme of Gravel's campaign.
3. Thank you, once again. Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2007, 05:52:51 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2007, 11:33:34 PM by Lt. Gov. South Park Conservative »

8/8/08: The FoxNews debate: The debate was a major help to Giuliani's floundering campaign. Bloomberg had a terrible performance, and Johnson performed fairly well. Here's a post-debate poll about who won the debate:
Giuliani 53%
Johnson 38%
Bloomberg 9%

8/10/08: Given the lower-than-expected support the Perot campaign is getting, Perot announced that if the Democrats didn't nominate Hillary Clinton, he would drop out of the race.
8/11/08: Evan Bayh renews Howard Dean's calls to prevent Clinton from getting the nomination. He has been contacting delegates and trying to get them to not vote for Clinton and instead vote for Obama, Richardson, or Gore.
8/13/08: New polling:



Tossup=<3% margin
Slight=<6% margin
Lean=<10% margin
Strong=>10% margin

Giuliani 34%
Clinton 26%
Bloomberg 14%
Johnson 4%
Perot 2%

8/15/08: Bill Richardson publicly responds to Evan Bayh's requests and states that he will try to steal the nomination from Clinton.
8/16/08: To respond to Richardson, Clinton says that he will no longer be on the ticket if she is nominated. She will announce her new choice tommorow.
8/17/08: Hillary Clinton announces that her new running mate will be:
Wes Clark. Wes Clark happily accepts the offer and says that he will attend the convention.
8/19/08: Barack Obama also announces that he will try to take Clinton's nomination.
8/20/08: Amid speculation that Al Gore will also try to take the nomination, Gore makes a Sherman Statement in Denver. He announces however that he will be making the Keynote Address at the Convention.
8/21/08: Dave Freudenthal announces that he will be challenging Barbara Cubin for Senate. He draws criticism for nominating a horrible candidate so she would be easy to beat.
8/24/08: It is revealed that Bill Clinton may be having an affair....


with Paris Hilton.

To be continued......and with these questions to be answered:
1. What will happen with Bill Clinton's relationship?
2. Who will be the Democratic nominee?
3. What will Al Gore mention in his keynote address?

All to be answer on the next update.
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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2007, 05:54:08 PM »

Just to let you know, the Democratic National Convention will be presented in Real Time, meaning that I will present it in an hourly basis instead in the usual daily basis. Thank you for reading.

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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2007, 03:05:16 PM »


How so? By including him in the FoxNews debate?
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« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2007, 05:08:36 PM »

And now, without further adoo, I bring you the 2008 Democratic National Convention!:

8/25/08 5:00 PM: Al Gore starts the convention by delivering the keynote address. In the address, he talks about the threat of global warming and the threat of neoconservatism. He frequently bashes George Bush in the address and comdemns Joe Lieberman for splintering from the party last year.
8/25/08 6:30 PM: After Al Gore's address, Stehen Colbert makes a speech, in character, making puns like, "I have no idea why the Democrats invited me to their convention." He also parodies George Bush, Rudy Giuliani, Duncan Hunter, and Joe Lieberman. he gets a thunderous applause for his "speech", and is rumored to be a potential "Anti-Hillary" candidate.
8/25/08 7:45 PM: Evan Bayh also makes a speech concerning the new direction of the Democratic Party. He reitterates that if the Democrats are to survive 2010, they must move ina new, moderate direction.
8/25/08 8:45 PM: As the night comes to a close, here is a preview of the delegates should be voting:
Clinton 2100
Richardson 1102
Obama 809
Webb 31
Unpledged 325

8/26/08 6:45 AM: BREAKING NEWS: It is revealed that Bill Clinton and Paris Hilton are dead in Bill Clinton's hotel room, and have died from stabbing. Hillary Clinton is believed to be the prime suspect, given that she was in the hotel room that night. She has been arrested and sent to Denver County jail until further notice.
8/26/08 9:00 AM: Bill Richardson takes advantage of this "national tragedy", and he refers to it, and states that he believes that he would be the best Democratic nominee during this "crisis".
8/26/08 10:35 AM: Wes Clark states that he is not interested in the Democratic nomination, and wishes to be the VP nominee.
8/26/08 1:00 PM: There have been calls to delay the convention, but Evan Bayh declines, saying that, "We can't let the death of a great man stall the nomination process."
8/26/08 5:25 PM: Bill Nelson makes a speech, honoring Bill Clinton, but also restating Evan Bayh's call to attract the center.
8/26/08 6:30 PM: Barack Obama and Bill Richardson respectively make speeches. Each one emphasized the importance of why a Democrat must be elected president in 2008.
8/26/08 8:30 PM: Joe Biden ended the night by displaying his Iraq partition plan.

To be continued (with the rest of the convention)....
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« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2007, 11:34:33 PM »

I can't buy Hillary stabbing her husband, I hope this doesn't take an unplausible turn.

Hashemite, you call that plausible ?!?

SPC - I can't buy that - come on!

You think I should just retract the whole thing about Bill Clinton and Paris Hilton?
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« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2007, 06:23:01 PM »

Well, I shoudl finish what I started, so here it goes:

(August 26-September 14)
Richardson inevitably wins the Democratic nomination by 50 votes. He selects runner-up Obama to be his veep. After the convention, Perot drops out and endorses Richardson. Gore hints that he might consider endorsing Nader, but untimately sticks with Richardson/Obama. For the Senate races, Gravel was not allowed to run in Alaska, Freudenthal leads Cubin, Udall leads Schaffer, Warner leads Davis, and Nelson leads Johanns. On the other hand, Coleman is beating Ciresi, Landrieu is beating Jenkins, Bruning is beating Fahey, and Collins is beating Allen. Bloomberg puts his campaign into full gear, and the debates are looming in a few weeks.
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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2007, 08:29:59 PM »

Yes, I will update this soon.
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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2007, 10:52:10 PM »

I'm on vacation right now. I will update it on the 13th.
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