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Figueira
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« on: September 01, 2015, 11:33:24 PM »

Most of Saint Lawrence, Franklin, Clinton, and Essex Counties seem to vote like Vermont for the most part. Are they culturally an extension of Vermont, Western Mass, etc., or is there something else going on there?
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2015, 12:26:45 AM »

Notice that the greatest differential in the candidates' vote percentage between the New York and the New England side of the border follows the crest of the Taconic Mountains, and the least differential exists on either side of Lake Champlain.

I'm not sure what category of people or geographies "Birkenstock" is meant to signify, other than a vague association with the prevalence of liberals in rural Northwest New England. It is not the best term to describe a blue-collar city with a manufacturing pedigree such as Pittsfield, for example, which happens to be the largest city or town in the "Belt" in Torie's map. Rather, as Averroës alluded, it's a diverse region, taken as a whole. Within the so-called belt are old mill-towns, resort communities, college towns and their periphery, and remote rural communities with weak historical or cultural connections to any of the above. It's just too simplistic to apply a label like that to an area with multiple currents of political culture. Perhaps "GOP Estrangement Zone" is a bit clunkier, but it's surely more apt.

Yeah, I tend to agree. The region is definitely interesting and worth studying politically, but Torie's analysis is a bit too simplistic.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 09:28:58 PM »



There seems to be a pattern between democratic counties in New England and French canadian ancestry.

I'm not seeing much of a correlation.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 11:18:40 AM »

French Canadian ancestry in New England often patterns with old industrial areas. Which does not seem to be the same with French ancestry here.

I think French, French Canadian, and Canadian are pretty much synonyms as far as New England ancestry is concerned. It's true that the French-speaking areas along the Canadian border generally vote Democratic (see the town- and precinct-level maps of northern Maine) but they aren't solely responsible for the entire region's Democratic leaning.
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