Democratic MI/MS election results thread (first results @8pm ET)

[Ebsy]

Clinton still /can/ win Michigan, but she doesn't seem likely to, unless what is outstanding has especially high numbers of African Americans in Kent and Wayne Counties.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I wonder what her internals showed.

[Gass3268]

Clinton is only up 18% in Wayne County with 92% of the vote in.

[Panhandle Progressive]

I'm just glad that Hillary won the most pledged delegates tonight. Her lead remains strong one week out from Super Tuesday II.

[Asian Nazi]

It just closed in again!

[IceSpear]

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this.

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.

Us "hacks" are still easily beating you Bernie "bots"

You only believe that because you seem to believe that there is no possible way for a superdelegate to switch endorsements. Yes, Clinton could theoretically reach the threshold using superdelegates, but if Sanders held the lead in pledged delegates, it's very likely that those superdelegates would switch over to Sanders. The superdelegates will likely have no effect whatsoever on the primaries.

Erm, she's going to have a ~220-230 pledged delegate lead after tonight. That's extremely difficult to overcome in a 100% proportional system.

[RightBehind]

People said Bernie could only win caucuses. He could only win small states. Tonight will be a big statement.

[Beet]

Honestly, the water crisis in Flint is so atrocious to me, and the fact that it permeated every level of that stupid governorship, that I hope Rick Snyder is not only recalled, but is jailed for murder.

Do you at least give her some credit for bringing it up?

[Panhandle Progressive]

People said Bernie could only win caucuses. He could only win small states. Tonight will be a big statement.

I'll give you that. But can he do it again in a week?

[This account no longer in use.]

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this.

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.

Us "hacks" are still easily beating you Bernie "bots"

You only believe that because you seem to believe that there is no possible way for a superdelegate to switch endorsements. Yes, Clinton could theoretically reach the threshold using superdelegates, but if Sanders held the lead in pledged delegates, it's very likely that those superdelegates would switch over to Sanders. The superdelegates will likely have no effect whatsoever on the primaries.

Erm, she's going to have a ~220-230 pledged delegate lead after tonight. That's extremely difficult to overcome in a 100% proportional system.

It was a theoretical statement. Our friend "3peat 2016" here seems to think that Clinton will be able to win on the backs of superdelegates.

[Joe Republic]

So Hillary comes out of tonight with a 22 delegate expansion of her lead?  All I needed to know, thanks.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Honestly, I see a path to victory for Sanders. The math is hard, but it is not impossible. It is simply too early to declare the race over.

What's the path to 50%+1 of pledged delegates?

He doesn't have one.

Outpoll Hillary by 25% for the rest of the race and then dance a jig at the convention? XD

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Sanders 49.9%
Clinton 48.1%


Oh my godddddd!!!

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

People said Bernie could only win caucuses. He could only win small states. Tonight will be a big statement.

Also, Michigan has more blacks and seniors than the nationwide average.  Not exactly ideal demographics for Bernie.

[Panhandle Progressive]

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this.

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.

Us "hacks" are still easily beating you Bernie "bots"

You only believe that because you seem to believe that there is no possible way for a superdelegate to switch endorsements. Yes, Clinton could theoretically reach the threshold using superdelegates, but if Sanders held the lead in pledged delegates, it's very likely that those superdelegates would switch over to Sanders. The superdelegates will likely have no effect whatsoever on the primaries.

Erm, she's going to have a ~220-230 pledged delegate lead after tonight. That's extremely difficult to overcome in a 100% proportional system.

It was a theoretical statement. Our friend "3peat 2016" here seems to think that Clinton will be able to win on the backs of superdelegates.

As long as she has a 1 pledged delegate lead after June 7th SHE WILL WIN ON THE BACKS OF SUPERDELEGATES.

[izixs]

New vote dump from Wayne so new estimates on needed Clinton support. I calculate she needs 55% to pull ahed. Better than earlier, but they are running out of terrain.

[indysaff]

83% in Wayne, but only 44% in Kent. I dunno if it will be enough.

[RightBehind]

People said Bernie could only win caucuses. He could only win small states. Tonight will be a big statement.

I'll give you that. But can he do it again in a week?

Why not? Hasn't he defied expectations as it is?

[Wells]

Sanders 49.9%
Clinton 48.1%


Oh my godddddd!!!

It is shocking that Sanders would win Michigan.

[Ebsy]

83% in Wayne, but only 44% in Kent. I dunno if it will be enough.

If Kent is following the patterns of the rest of the state, the black vote will come in last.

[This account no longer in use.]

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this.

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.

Us "hacks" are still easily beating you Bernie "bots"

You only believe that because you seem to believe that there is no possible way for a superdelegate to switch endorsements. Yes, Clinton could theoretically reach the threshold using superdelegates, but if Sanders held the lead in pledged delegates, it's very likely that those superdelegates would switch over to Sanders. The superdelegates will likely have no effect whatsoever on the primaries.

Erm, she's going to have a ~220-230 pledged delegate lead after tonight. That's extremely difficult to overcome in a 100% proportional system.

It was a theoretical statement. Our friend "3peat 2016" here seems to think that Clinton will be able to win on the backs of superdelegates.

As long as she has a 1 pledged delegate lead after June 7th SHE WILL WIN ON THE BACKS OF SUPERDELEGATES.

That's true, but then, she would have the majority even without superdelegates. On the other hand, if she didn't have the majority in pledged delegates, I have serious doubts that the superdelegates would overrule the people. Like somebody else here said, it's a catch-22. The only time when superdelegates will actually be able to save her, they won't save her.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Sanders 49.9%
Clinton 48.1%


Oh my godddddd!!!

It is shocking that Sanders would win Michigan.

I actually don't mind lol.  I like him he grew on me.

[Wiz in Wis]

People said Bernie could only win caucuses. He could only win small states. Tonight will be a big statement.

I'll give you that. But can he do it again in a week?

Why not? Hasn't he defied expectations as it is?

He has, clearly, it s a good night for him. At the same time, Hillary won OH, TX, and PA late in 08. Was a big story for weeks. lots of momentum. Didn't matter long run.

[Xing]

I can't speak for other Sanders supporters, but as someone who doesn't expect Sanders to win the nomination, I'm just happy that pulled off such a surprise win. While Clinton is still the overwhelming favorite, even Clinton supporters should admit that Sanders is nothing to sneeze at.

[Dr. Arch]

Opening up again!