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« Reply #600 on: March 08, 2016, 11:06:18 PM »

Can anyone really see a scenario where Sanders wins the nomination?

Yes, and it involves winning two states next Tuesday.
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« Reply #601 on: March 08, 2016, 11:06:24 PM »

Clinton would need to win the remaining vote by about 56% to get a lead at this point. Its pretty much over as that number keeps climbing.
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« Reply #602 on: March 08, 2016, 11:06:51 PM »

Can anyone really see a scenario where Sanders wins the nomination?

Yes, and it involves winning two states next Tuesday.
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« Reply #603 on: March 08, 2016, 11:07:05 PM »

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

It plays out well for him in future states.

Winning by margins that only results in a splitting delegates does not make up the delegate gap.

If he can pull an upset here, he can improve on his numbers elsewhere.
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« Reply #604 on: March 08, 2016, 11:07:09 PM »

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this. Wink
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« Reply #605 on: March 08, 2016, 11:07:37 PM »

The actual math will be fine after tonight, but I hate how this could spin things for next week. I hope the Clinton campaign can put in a good week this week.
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« Reply #606 on: March 08, 2016, 11:08:30 PM »

Honestly, I see a path to victory for Sanders. The math is hard, but it is not impossible. It is simply too early to declare the race over.
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« Reply #607 on: March 08, 2016, 11:08:35 PM »

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this. Wink

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.
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« Reply #608 on: March 08, 2016, 11:09:08 PM »

A vote dump from Detroit and Flint only put a small dent in Sanders' lead. Looks like this one's a done deal.
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« Reply #609 on: March 08, 2016, 11:09:41 PM »

DDHQ officially retracts lol.
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« Reply #610 on: March 08, 2016, 11:09:53 PM »

I think Bernie takes this, even if the margin narrows (Hillary supporter here)

i'm shocked this hasnt been called yet. Media and pollsters eat humble pie for getting this so wrong.... Crazy, crazy polling miss.
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« Reply #611 on: March 08, 2016, 11:10:27 PM »

DDHQ still has it called for Clinton even though Sanders is leading by three with 67.2% in? lol
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« Reply #612 on: March 08, 2016, 11:10:46 PM »

DDHQ still has it called for Clinton even though Sanders is leading by three with 67.2% in? lol

They just retracted their call and apologized.
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« Reply #613 on: March 08, 2016, 11:10:55 PM »

How big was the polling mismatch? -25?
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« Reply #614 on: March 08, 2016, 11:11:37 PM »

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this. Wink

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.

Us "hacks" are still easily beating you Bernie "bots"
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« Reply #615 on: March 08, 2016, 11:11:48 PM »

Honestly, I see a path to victory for Sanders. The math is hard, but it is not impossible. It is simply too early to declare the race over.
What's the path to 50%+1 of pledged delegates?
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« Reply #616 on: March 08, 2016, 11:12:19 PM »

DDHQ still has it called for Clinton even though Sanders is leading by three with 67.2% in? lol

They just retracted their call and apologized.

They ought to apologize, lol
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« Reply #617 on: March 08, 2016, 11:12:30 PM »

Chippewa just clocked in, huge Sanders lead there as well.
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« Reply #618 on: March 08, 2016, 11:13:01 PM »

Honestly, I see a path to victory for Sanders. The math is hard, but it is not impossible. It is simply too early to declare the race over.
What's the path to 50%+1 of pledged delegates?

He doesn't have one.
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« Reply #619 on: March 08, 2016, 11:13:27 PM »

Besides the odd couple of Saginaw County precincts, Wayne, and thus Detroit, is the last major pro-Clinton area on the map (seeing as how Oakland County has fully reported with a 8k+ vote win for Clinton). This means that most of the rest of her support is coming out of there.

Honestly Sanders winning Michigan is the best thing to happen to me in a while. The only thing that could make this night any better would be if 1) Sanders reaches viability in every MS congressional district, and B) if Sanders somehow wins Flint's county (seeing as how it is back to a slight Clinton lead). Honestly, the water crisis in Flint is so atrocious to me, and the fact that it permeated every level of that stupid governorship, that I hope Rick Snyder is not only recalled, but is jailed for murder.
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« Reply #620 on: March 08, 2016, 11:14:06 PM »

Macomb is almost in at 93%. Where does she get her vote now when there is still Kent and Ottawa.
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« Reply #621 on: March 08, 2016, 11:14:38 PM »

Clinton pulls it out in Michigan.  That was exciting for a while, good win though.
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« Reply #622 on: March 08, 2016, 11:15:12 PM »

I'm still not sure why people are ignoring the delegate math here. This does not close the gap for Sanders, not even close.

This.

I've noticed that you never truly make any contributions to any discussions at all. Almost everything I've seen you do in these past few days is quote another Clinton's supporter's goalpost moving with the word "This." Why not try using your own opinions?

I just did before you posted this. Wink

Fair enough. But still, a disproportionate amount of your posting activity is simply empty quoting other Clinton hacks.

Us "hacks" are still easily beating you Bernie "bots"

You only believe that because you seem to believe that there is no possible way for a superdelegate to switch endorsements. Yes, Clinton could theoretically reach the threshold using superdelegates, but if Sanders held the lead in pledged delegates, it's very likely that those superdelegates would switch over to Sanders. The superdelegates will likely have no effect whatsoever on the primaries.
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« Reply #623 on: March 08, 2016, 11:15:52 PM »

Clinton pulls it out in Michigan.  That was exciting for a while, good win though.

Please tell me good news...
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« Reply #624 on: March 08, 2016, 11:16:19 PM »

Honestly, I see a path to victory for Sanders. The math is hard, but it is not impossible. It is simply too early to declare the race over.
What's the path to 50%+1 of pledged delegates?

He doesn't have one.

Of course he does. You blind yourself to possibilities you dislike. He can have a decent showing on March 15th, then run up big margins in the states more favorable to him later on. I'll probably need to make a bigger post later going through the math but it's definitely possible.
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