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« on: March 01, 2016, 05:28:37 PM »

Anyone could have called Vermont for Sanders the moment he announced his campaign.

I don't think Martin O'Malley ever polled that well in his home state.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2016, 05:34:48 PM »

52% of Tennessee voters in the Democratic Primary want to move in a more liberal direction than Obama. Chuck Todd keeps saying that Sanders blew it by not targeting the state. It sounds like it might be closer than expected.

Relax, Bernie had field offices and phone banking to TN. He just didn't run ads, because the ads in red states cost a lot more per Democratic primary voter.
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jfern
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 05:45:56 PM »


Damn it, I want them to show up in the exit polls so we can talk about how Bernie landslided with them.
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jfern
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 06:04:38 PM »


Anyone less liberal than Obama still exists in the Democratic Party?

Well, there's the Democratic frontrunner.
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jfern
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 07:04:12 PM »

83% of Vermont women are going to a special place in hell.
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jfern
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 09:31:56 PM »

Hillary winning Sudbury, MA 532-0. Guys, you're supposed to make it believable.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 10:13:19 PM »

Winning MA or loosing would make no difference in delegates.

Correct, there's an even number of delegates in both the statewide pools, so a close win means an even split there.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 10:14:57 PM »

We need to dispel with this fiction that the media doesn't know what they're doing by not calling MA. They know exactly what they're doing. Things look good for Clinton, and I think she'll most likely win but the map isn't like anything I've ever seen, so I can see why they're being careful here.

And they're doing something a little more scientific than "George, have you seen this map before? Who won that time?"
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jfern
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 10:40:51 PM »

To be honest, I gave up on Bernie's eventual nomination, and just root for him to bring the Dems to their left, to bring Clinton to be at least vaguely left-wing, and for him to be able to influence the platform at the convention.

Hillary is already moving to the right. No moratorium on drilling public lands, and no plan to address climate change. She won't be even vaguely left-wing. And 4 years ago Obama had had them ignore the delegates on voting whether the platform should say Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 11:21:51 PM »

Thank you Massholes! No way this can be spun as anything other than an amazing night for Hillary now.

Bernie got 4 wins, and should shut Hillary out of delegates in Vermont.
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jfern
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM »


It's weird how dramatically different Oklahoma is from Texas and Arkansas.  And even the neighboring Colorado county is for Hillary.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2016, 11:49:28 PM »

The AP called Massachusetts for Bernie. But then sadly switched it to Hillary.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 11:51:33 PM »

CNN spinning it as Bernie making it a race.

Yeah according to them Bernie is going to win everything from here on out...

The entire former confederacy except for Kentucky will be done voting by the 15th.
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jfern
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Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2016, 11:58:10 PM »

Thank you Massholes! No way this can be spun as anything other than an amazing night for Hillary now.

Bernie got 4 wins, and should shut Hillary out of delegates in Vermont.

Pledged yes, supers no.

Ah, yes. The Superdelegate Defense. Basically implying that if Clinton doesn't win the nomination democratically, she'll win it undemocratically.

Dude, she's gonna be up ~250 pledged after tonight. That's basically insurmountable in a proportional system. Might need to update those talking points.

I'd argue that anybody who still talks about superdelegates needs to update their own talking points first.

Uh, in the 2008 primaries Hillary won over 300,000 more votes than Obama, but he still won because of superdelegates.

I agree that they are unnecessary, but they do matter and it's not some kind of anti-Sanders/pro-Hillary "anti-democracy" conspiracy.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA

Obama - 17,869,542

Clinton - 17,717,698

Either way, superdelegates (and Caucuses) are an affront to the democratic system.

Also if you don't estimate the caucus states like that, if you just exclude Michigan, where Obama wasn't on the ballot, he wins.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2016, 12:02:28 AM »

Whoo! You go Bernie; ride that wave on white voters and no one else...FEEL THE BERN on your pasty skin.

A lot of people just don't know Bernie well enough. He won big with Vermont minorities.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2016, 01:17:37 AM »

should not lose track of this prime objective.

The prime objective is electing Hillary so she can appoint the 9th Supreme Court justice. THAT IS THE PRIME OBJECTIVE! THIS SINGLE JUSTICE WILL DEFINE A GENERATION PEOPLE! A GENERATION!

Bernie does better in the general election.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2016, 01:28:30 AM »

The only county Hillary won in Colorado that isn't really low population is Pueblo.
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jfern
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Posts: 53,802


Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2016, 01:29:29 AM »

should not lose track of this prime objective.

The prime objective is electing Hillary so she can appoint the 9th Supreme Court justice. THAT IS THE PRIME OBJECTIVE! THIS SINGLE JUSTICE WILL DEFINE A GENERATION PEOPLE! A GENERATION!

Bernie does better in the general election.

The person who is still leading even after being attacked for the last 30 years by the press, Republican Party, and the general public.

The Obama administration's FBI is investing pay to play with the Clinton Foundation.
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jfern
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Posts: 53,802


Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2016, 01:32:16 AM »

should not lose track of this prime objective.

The prime objective is electing Hillary so she can appoint the 9th Supreme Court justice. THAT IS THE PRIME OBJECTIVE! THIS SINGLE JUSTICE WILL DEFINE A GENERATION PEOPLE! A GENERATION!

Bernie does better in the general election.

The person who is still leading even after being attacked for the last 30 years by the press, Republican Party, and the general public.

The Obama administration's FBI is investing pay to play with the Clinton Foundation.

Bernie bros gotta hate. F'n butthurt.

Hillary hacks ignore general election polls for no good reason.
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