Is Ron Paul's boat in Iowa being raised by Obama fans out to cause mischief?

[memphis]

Very doubtful. Maybe somebody somewhere is being a troll, but people, by and large, aren't that strategic. Face it, the GOP doesn't know what they want. Other than money. About that, they're quite certain.

[memphis]

Very doubtful. Maybe somebody somewhere is being a troll, but people, by and large, aren't that strategic. Face it, the GOP doesn't know what they want. Other than money. About that, they're quite certain.

Because everyone on the other side just spits at money, right? But I'm not talking about this tangent here.

If the Democrats are half as money hungry as the Republicans, they have a very strange way of showing it....

[memphis]

I think a lot of the Obama people (or ex-Obama people) supporting him there find him legitimately charming.

Thing is, supporting Obama and Paul makes no sense whatsoever. Their policies are mutually exclusive. But people are fools, so whatever.

[memphis]

I think a lot of the Obama people (or ex-Obama people) supporting him there find him legitimately charming.

Thing is, supporting Obama and Paul makes no sense whatsoever. Their policies are mutually exclusive. But people are fools, so whatever.

I don't agree.  There are definitely areas of overlap.  Frankly there are a lot of areas of overlap between a lot of Democrats and Republicans if you take the partisan hype out of the equation.

Ron Paul is for legalizing drugs and prostitution.  He believes the government should get out of the marriage business.  Actually his views on that are to the left of Obama!  I know I know Obama's views are "evolving."  Come to think of it Ron Paul's views on drug legalization and prostitution are also to the left of Obama.  Some of Paul's views are so right wing they end up being far left!  If that makes any sense.

Right. Obama and Paul don't agree. That's my whole point. Supporting both makes no sense.

[memphis]

Ok, I see what you're saying. Marijuana laws are dumb (for a number of reasons). And while nobody expected Obama to turn into Cheech once he was elected, it was reasonable to expect him to be more chill around the edges (like with the medical stuff) that he has been or the mainstream Republicans have been. And it's kind of cool that in this age of polling and cynicism that somebody like Ron Paul comes along, and he doesn't really care that's its politically unpopular to oppose marijuana laws. He really does stand for what he believes in. He has principles in contrast to most politicians. And that's great and I give him credit for that.
All that said, you have to look at a candidate in aggregate. I think it's awesome that he opposes marijuna laws. However.
1. He opposes Medicare.
2. He wants to let younger workers opt of out Social Security, which would, in the real world, completely defund and destroy this most vital government program.
3. He wants the US to leave the United Nations.
4. He voted to put a wall up between Mexico and the United States.
5. He wants to abolish the income tax and fund the government through tariffs and excise taxes.
6.  He introduced personhood legislation that would define life as beginning at the moment of conception, something even people in MS rejected.
7.He supports don't ask don't tell.
8. He is a climate change denier.
9. He has opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
10. He would like to see prayer back in schools.
11. He voted for Bush's anti-gay marriage amendment.
12. He doesn't think citizens should have the right to elect their Senators.
So, once again, it's great that he's honest when most politicians are not. And it's cool that he thinks we shouldn't be locking up people on drugs. I think I could find things I agree on with most people. However, in aggregate Paul's positions are a heaping pile of sh!t. And I think any Obama voter should be able to see that. But maybe they can't.

[memphis]

  Some of Paul's views are so right wing they end up being far left!  If that makes any sense.

Just shows that right/left is overly simplistic.

I still don't understand the distinction that's made between regulating fattening food vs. drugs. It's left-wing to regulate fattening food, but right-wing to regulate drugs?

They're both harmful to the individual, and to society as a whole. They're both marketed to kids to get them hooked early. They both can make people disgusting and unbearable to be around. And both, in moderation, can be enjoyed by anyone with a modicum of self control without suffering the fatal consequences.

So why is one a left-wing predilection to regulate and the other a right-wing one?

When is the last time you read reports of women being raped by their dates after being feed french fries? When is the last time you read reports of women being raped by their dates after being drugged with Rohypnol?

When the last time somebody was raped because of marijuana? I believe alcohol is the more typical drug men use to get women to sleep with them.

[memphis]

Putting any kind of frug on somebody's drink is a completely different thing than choosing it for yourself. That said, anybody know what chemicals McDonalds has been putting in your food? It's not a pretty question.

[memphis]

I think a lot of the Obama people (or ex-Obama people) supporting him there find him legitimately charming.

Thing is, supporting Obama and Paul makes no sense whatsoever. Their policies are mutually exclusive. But people are fools, so whatever.

...Pot. lol.

Impressive rebuttal...