Sanders campaign attacks Clinton for hosting fundraiser with Clooney

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$353k a person makes a total mockery of all the campaign finance regulations.

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Sanders seemed to have few complaints taking the money of large ticket donors during his campaigns for the Senate.

Did he ever take more than $2700? Yeah, I didn't think so.

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Good to learn from the Berniebots that George Clooney and his wife are corrupt plutocrats like the Koch brothers.

It's as if some people can't accept that some wealthy people give money just to support candidates whose agenda they want enacted. One of my friend's parents gave over a thousand dollars to Obama in 2012 and her family is far from wealthy. They didn't get any favors. They just wanted to help a man who they believed in get re-elected. So imagine what movie directors/stars whose net worth(s) are anywhere from hundreds of millions to even billions can give and think nothing of? Clooney, whose net worth is 180 million dollars, could give 300k and not lose a wink of sleep. Spielberg as well.

Don't people realize that a lot of these guys donate even more to charity? Helping to get a politician who supports things like climate change and environmental regulation elected president is just as worthy as some charities, because it furthers their philanthropic goals. Given the regulations Obama has been pushing in his tenure for the environment, donating to him is almost as effective as donating to other traditional environmental groups in terms of getting things done.

Yet all people see is "OH LOOK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS - IT MUST BE FOR FAVORS. THEY MUST BE CORRUPT!".

I swear, the ignorance around the debate of campaign donations is mind-boggling

You don't see a difference from giving <= $2700 in a primary and giving $353k?

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Did they ever raise $335k a ticket? I don't think so.

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Well, they did not have Donald Trump back then: the Republican they, actually, like.

Where did I say I like Trump? This has nothing to do with him.

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This money laundering wasn't even possible before the 2014 Supreme Court ruling gutting the $75k maximum on money you can give to all political parties and candidates in a year.  There were no $335k tickets in the past for that simple reason.

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Did they ever raise $335k a ticket? I don't think so.

Are you trying to imitate Rubio? Can you utter any other coherent proposition besides that idiotic talking point?
If not go away and stop wasting our time with your tomfoolery.

Speak for yourself. I gave a specific reason why the tickets were no more than $75k in the past.

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Did they ever raise $335k a ticket? I don't think so.

Are you trying to imitate Rubio? Can you utter any other coherent proposition besides that idiotic talking point?
If not go away and stop wasting our time with your tomfoolery.

Speak for yourself. I gave a specific reason why the tickets were no more than $75k in the past.

Anything magic about 75 grand? Money flows into politics. In 10 years it will a million or two per plate, and people will remember the 350 grand per plate as something cheap.

Then again, what can one expect from a guy who claims that Hillary Clinton "supported" Honduran coup, while knowing full well that this is pretty much exactly the opposite of what happened. Baseless Slander is your middle name, I guess.

There was a limit of $75,000 that you could give to parties and candidates a year until the Supreme Court struck that down in 2014.

Of course Hillary was involved in the Hillary coup.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/11/before_her_assassination_berta_caceres_singled

So raising money for the national and state parties is now somehow corruption?

Would a Sanders supporter who is outraged about this explain just how these entities should otherwise reinforce down-ballot races and field candidates for offices besides President? It certainly won't happen via most of the angsty, pissy factions of the Left that can't organize themselves out of a paper bag and have such a pathetically-narrow focus on and obsession over one race.

They gave the money to the DNC, it was just a way to get around direct contribution limits. This wasn't helping down ticket races.

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Did they ever raise $335k a ticket? I don't think so.

Somewhat less. But still tens of thousands per plate - this is the norm. Obama once had 6 fundraisers in a single day. The cheapest one was $2,500 per plate, the most expensive - $50,000, and there were also events at $5,000, $35,800 and $40,000 per plate (cannot seem to find the numbers for the 6th). All in one day's work. $30,000  to $50,000 per plate seems to be pretty common for him. You never seemed to have bothered before.

These are just a few of the first links coming up on google. Enjoy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2012/05/10/as-george-clooney-throws-obama-a-40000-a-plate-party-meet-the-billionaires-opening-their-wallets/#5ddce03c4630

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/219582-reporters-kept-out-as-obama-attends-50k-per-plate-fundraiser

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/president-obama-hosts-6-fundraisers-friday-on-minneapolis-chicago-visit/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/obama-set-for-35000-per-person-dinner-at-movie-mogul-weinsteins-conn-home/

http://thepricehike.com/post/6830596298/why-obamas-36000-dinner-is-cheap

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/03/11/some-republicans-charge-obamas-california-fundraising-is-over-the-top/

Of course nothing was above $75k before the 2014 SCOTUS ruling. You can give $36k to a candidate and the DNC.

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You're an idiot.
End of discussion.

Stop projecting.

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So raising money for the national and state parties is now somehow corruption?

Would a Sanders supporter who is outraged about this explain just how these entities should otherwise reinforce down-ballot races and field candidates for offices besides President? It certainly won't happen via most of the angsty, pissy factions of the Left that can't organize themselves out of a paper bag and have such a pathetically-narrow focus on and obsession over one race.

They gave the money to the DNC, it was just a way to get around direct contribution limits. This wasn't helping down ticket races.

Care to explain where you believe all the rest of the $353k that doesn't end up in the DNC's coffers is going?

http://bangordailynews.com/2016/01/07/politics/clinton-donors-use-maine-democrats-to-skirt-campaign-cash-limits/

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Of course Hillary was involved in the Hillary coup.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/11/before_her_assassination_berta_caceres_singled

A tragic death does not make every statement by the victim truth.

Anyway, from now on I shall always claim that you are a Chinese prison guard, personally involved in torturing dissidents. And I have more reasons to claim that then you have to blame Hillary Clinton for the Honduran coup: I merely invented my accusation based on no evidence about you whatsoever, whereas you are continuing to peddle a shameless lie despite ample public evidence - perfectly familiar to you - that it is a lie.

Huh? It's the truth that Hillary sided with the coup.

You're an idiot.
End of discussion.

Stop projecting.

He is wrong. You are not an idiot. You are a shameless slanderer in voluntary service of Donald Trump.

I'm not a Trump supporter.

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Did they ever raise $335k a ticket? I don't think so.

Somewhat less. But still tens of thousands per plate - this is the norm. Obama once had 6 fundraisers in a single day. The cheapest one was $2,500 per plate, the most expensive - $50,000, and there were also events at $5,000, $35,800 and $40,000 per plate (cannot seem to find the numbers for the 6th). All in one day's work. $30,000  to $50,000 per plate seems to be pretty common for him. You never seemed to have bothered before.

These are just a few of the first links coming up on google. Enjoy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2012/05/10/as-george-clooney-throws-obama-a-40000-a-plate-party-meet-the-billionaires-opening-their-wallets/#5ddce03c4630

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/219582-reporters-kept-out-as-obama-attends-50k-per-plate-fundraiser

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/president-obama-hosts-6-fundraisers-friday-on-minneapolis-chicago-visit/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/obama-set-for-35000-per-person-dinner-at-movie-mogul-weinsteins-conn-home/

http://thepricehike.com/post/6830596298/why-obamas-36000-dinner-is-cheap

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/03/11/some-republicans-charge-obamas-california-fundraising-is-over-the-top/

Of course nothing was above $75k before the 2014 SCOTUS ruling. You can give $36k to a candidate and the DNC.

Well, that is the law of the land now - so people operate under the laws in force. You cannot unilaterally disarm, unless all you want is to lose. In terms of actual "corruption" there is exactly zero difference between 75 grand and 1 mln. And you perfectly well know it, but choose to deliberately slander an honest person for the explicit purpose of electing Donald Trump.

Are any Republican candidates (not SuperPACS) having fundraisers of greater than >= $75k a ticket? Because if not, then this is Hillary unilaterally arming.

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I guess back in 2008 when Geffen, Katzenberg and Spielberg held these kind of fundraisers for Obama, jfern was equally vehement in denouncing them as immoral.
Wasn't he?

Well, they did not have Donald Trump back then: the Republican they, actually, like.

Where did I say I like Trump? This has nothing to do with him.

Except for doing anything in your power to have him elected.

By supporting a candidate who beats Trump by 24 points in one poll?

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Huh? It's the truth that Hillary sided with the coup.

It is a shameless lie you keep repeating, despite every evidence to the contrary (which is public, and which I have previously discussed). The US government never recognized the government that came to power as a result of the coup, and used the threat of non-recognition of the successor government to insist on elections being conducted in time and in accordance with some minimal standards. There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton or anybody else in the US administration supported the coup, and ample public evidence to the contrary. No matter how many times you repeat that white is black, it is not going to become black.  You are a deliberate, shameless slanderer.

She clearly supported it.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/09/24/hillary-clinton-emails-and-honduras-coup

By using blatant lies to attack the eventual Dem nominee.

There's still a primary, and what am I saying that is a lie?