Is Trumpism going to die off after Donald Trump loses the election?
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  Is Trumpism going to die off after Donald Trump loses the election?
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2016, 05:29:28 PM »
« edited: July 08, 2016, 10:31:40 PM by Adam T »

This Trumpism is basically European 'Far Right' politics.

Trump is a poor proponent of it because he is so unreliable in his views.  He has essentially taken every side of every issue.  Even his vaunted wall along the Mexican border he says is 'negotiable.'  He isn't even against free-trade agreements, just those that he hasn't personally negotiated.

Far-right European politics already has a party in the United States: The Constitution Party, it's just that very few people know about that party and, at present, it's dominated by religious types.

Where far-right European politics goes in the United States will obviously depend to some degree how the legitimate aspects of their grievances (increasing wealth inequality, to some degree un-guarded borders and foreign guest worker programs) are dealt with.  

As I don't really see how the question of whether the U.S should remain an 'old stock' nation or a multicultural nation can end  without one side winning and the other side losing, those who are part of the 'far right'  for that reason will not go away, but will likely slowly die off.
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2016, 09:56:01 PM »

I have no doubt that some candidate in 2020 will attempt to be the candidate of the "Trump coalition," but I don't see this Trumpism enduring as a new wing of the Republican party in the long run.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2016, 03:33:33 AM »

Nope, it's here to stay.
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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2016, 01:05:58 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2016, 01:08:04 AM by Derpist »

"Trumpism" has existed since at least 1968 - it really is just Richard Nixon's silent majority.

It isn't going anywhere, just like it hasn't gone anywhere for the past 48 years.

Until there isn't a white working class anymore, that is.

Does economic discontent go away if there is no white working class? Thinking about a hypothetical 2050 America with no white working class, does that just mean the working-class is entirely non-white?

A 2050 America with a racial caste system is worryingly plausible.

It's also plausible that the white-working class grows at a certain point, if Hispanic immigrants are culturally assimilated without becoming "middle class". Obviously, the current perception of Hispanics is as a non-white other, but that was the perception of Irish-Americans at one time in history too.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2016, 12:05:00 AM »

Far-right European politics already has a party in the United States: The Constitution Party, it's just that very few people know about that party and, at present, it's dominated by religious types.

The Constitution Party is and always has been a Christian Right party. That's not really the same thing as the European far right.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2016, 04:20:17 AM »

I have no doubt that some candidate in 2020 will attempt to be the candidate of the "Trump coalition," but I don't see this Trumpism enduring as a new wing of the Republican party in the long run.

I beg to differ.  Someone will emerge as a more defined version of trumpism especially if Hillary has 4 horrid divisive years in office.
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2016, 06:54:53 AM »

Look at Europe. It isn't "Trumpism". It's a worldwide backlash against the negative aspects of globalization.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2016, 09:30:52 AM »

No because he's going to win
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2016, 04:16:06 PM »
« Edited: July 11, 2016, 04:20:47 PM by Wolverine22 »

Trumpism first came into the mainstream in 2009 when the right was comparing Obama to Hitler and holding signs that said "The American taxpayers are the Jews for Obama's ovens." Now they've nominated a candidate that truly and fully emboldens conservative/Republican values: racism, bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, and theocracy. Donald Trump is merely the chickens coming home to roost.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2016, 07:37:07 PM »

Trumpism first came into the mainstream in 2009 when the right was comparing Obama to Hitler and holding signs that said "The American taxpayers are the Jews for Obama's ovens." Now they've nominated a candidate that truly and fully emboldens conservative/Republican values: racism, bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, and theocracy. Donald Trump is merely the chickens coming home to roost.

Whatever Trump emboldens, it sure isn't theocracy.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2016, 07:47:10 PM »

Now they've nominated a candidate that truly and fully emboldens conservative/Republican values: racism, bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, and theocracy. Donald Trump is merely the chickens coming home to roost.

Theocracy?  Trump is the most socially liberal candidate the GOP has ever nominated.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2016, 09:06:56 PM »

Trumpism first came into the mainstream in 2009 when the right was comparing Obama to Hitler and holding signs that said "The American taxpayers are the Jews for Obama's ovens." Now they've nominated a candidate that truly and fully emboldens conservative/Republican values: racism, bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, and theocracy. Donald Trump is merely the chickens coming home to roost.

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