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« on: January 28, 2017, 02:11:24 PM »

So if France is added to "the List" somehow this means I can't leave anymore or else I'll never be allowed back. Woohoo.

90 days is not "never" FWIW
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 02:55:46 PM »

Breaking: State Department says dual citizens with those seven countries ARE banned from the US.

State Dept: citizens of 7 nations in Trump order with dual-nationality also barred. Meaning UK/Iraqi citizens, for example, can't enter.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/825417681423761409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

What about American/Libya or American/Iraqi citizenship

I don't think the US recognizes/allows dual US citizenships, do they?
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 03:03:47 PM »

Breaking: State Department says dual citizens with those seven countries ARE banned from the US.

State Dept: citizens of 7 nations in Trump order with dual-nationality also barred. Meaning UK/Iraqi citizens, for example, can't enter.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/825417681423761409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

What about American/Libya or American/Iraqi citizenship

I don't think the US recognizes/allows dual US citizenships, do they?

I'm a dual citizen, I have both Palestinian and American citizenship so...

From the government's perspective, you renounce any other citizenships when you become an American citizen.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 04:34:32 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2017, 04:36:39 PM by realisticidealist »

So if France is added to "the List" somehow this means I can't leave anymore or else I'll never be allowed back. Woohoo.

90 days is not "never" FWIW
Oh why don't you go back to your masturbatory fantasies about flogging Jesus, you fool.

You think it'll be permanent? The policy as it stands now might not last the week. Even strong Trump supporters aren't standing for this.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 05:14:34 PM »

Protestors shouting "No Ban, No Registry, F*** White Supremacy" outside of JFK

That probably won't help anything.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 05:18:51 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2017, 05:20:25 PM by realisticidealist »

Protestors shouting "No Ban, No Registry, F*** White Supremacy" outside of JFK

That probably won't help anything.

What the *** does it hurt? If you want to tssk tssk protesters for using foul language to attack this legitimately bad policy, then you need a wake up call.

I've been critical of this policy pretty much all day. Not sure what your problem is.

It hurts in that the protestors are completely missing the point by injecting racial BS into this.
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 05:24:33 PM »

Protestors shouting "No Ban, No Registry, F*** White Supremacy" outside of JFK

That probably won't help anything.

What the *** does it hurt? If you want to tssk tssk protesters for using foul language to attack this legitimately bad policy, then you need a wake up call.

I've been critical of this policy pretty much all day. Not sure what your problem is.

It hurts in that the protestors are completely missing the point by injecting racial BS into this.
If that is what your worried about you really need to get a grip.

If you want to turn off potential allies for the sake of moral signalling, be my guest. Doesn't help anyone who can't get home.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 05:24:55 PM »

Protestors shouting "No Ban, No Registry, F*** White Supremacy" outside of JFK

That probably won't help anything.

What the *** does it hurt? If you want to tssk tssk protesters for using foul language to attack this legitimately bad policy, then you need a wake up call.

I've been critical of this policy pretty much all day. Not sure what your problem is.

It hurts in that the protestors are completely missing the point by injecting racial BS into this.

I'd say a blanket ban on Muslims is "racial BS".

Good thing such a ban doesn't exist. There's plenty to oppose without being hyperbolic.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2017, 05:31:06 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2017, 05:34:00 PM by realisticidealist »

The ban just enacted also happens to include Omid Nouripour, dual German-Iranian citizen, Green MP, and deputy chair of the German-American Parliamentary Friendship Group in the Bundestag.

At the speed Trump acts, I wonder with which countries in the world the United States will still maintain diplomatic relations four years from now... maybe the UK, Israel, and Russia?

Diplomats, foreign officials, and similar were exempt.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2017, 05:40:41 PM »

The ban just enacted also happens to include Omid Nouripour, dual German-Iranian citizen, Green MP, and deputy chair of the German-American Parliamentary Friendship Group in the Bundestag.

At the speed Trump acts, I wonder with which countries in the world the United States will still maintain diplomatic relations four years from now... maybe the UK, Israel, and Russia?

Diplomats, foreign officials, and similar were exempt.

Media in Germany say otherwise.

Possible he didn't get a G-2 visa or whatever is allowed.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2017, 05:43:01 PM »

Protestors shouting "No Ban, No Registry, F*** White Supremacy" outside of JFK

That probably won't help anything.

What the *** does it hurt? If you want to tssk tssk protesters for using foul language to attack this legitimately bad policy, then you need a wake up call.

I've been critical of this policy pretty much all day. Not sure what your problem is.

It hurts in that the protestors are completely missing the point by injecting racial BS into this.
'What's the big deal? It's only 90 days' isn't critical.  It's excuse making.

Never once said it wasn't a big deal.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 05:48:49 PM »

Protestors shouting "No Ban, No Registry, F*** White Supremacy" outside of JFK

That probably won't help anything.

What the *** does it hurt? If you want to tssk tssk protesters for using foul language to attack this legitimately bad policy, then you need a wake up call.

I've been critical of this policy pretty much all day. Not sure what your problem is.

It hurts in that the protestors are completely missing the point by injecting racial BS into this.
'What's the big deal? It's only 90 days' isn't critical.  It's excuse making.

Never once said it wasn't a big deal.

It definitely came across that way.

Antonio was being concerned about something that wasn't reflective of reality. It was meant to be relieving, not dismissive.
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