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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2011, 08:54:30 PM »

I'm now wondering who will be in office longer, Qaddafi or Obama.

(please note that was only 5 days ago.)
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BRTD
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2011, 08:59:35 PM »

The speed of capitulation and the capture of Qaddafi's heir is a difference, and before Beet comes in and joins JJ in the negativity party... there will be instability, that is without doubt... but that has to happen.

Try "heirs."  They caught 3/7 of them.

How many of those three will be alive in a year?

I suppose if any are it'll probably due to them being held in The Hague on the ICC indictment.
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2011, 09:06:11 PM »

There is now a death pic of a Gaddafi circulating. Probably as real as the bin Laden one, but whatever. Click here (quite graphic and NSFW): http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28905.htm
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2011, 10:48:09 PM »

You can't fight a guerilla war out of power and with your assets frozen when your power is pretty much all mercenaries, which is the case with Gaddafi. The non-mercenary components of the Libyan Army defected and surrendered en masse under pressure.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2011, 11:33:43 PM »

J. J. reminds me of that Libyan State TV anchor who was videotaped holding a gun and saying that she would fight to the death along with many others for Gaddafi. Well now that state TV office is abandoned.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2011, 12:27:47 PM »

Gaddafi now pinned down to three pockets if this map is correct:

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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2011, 01:51:42 AM »

Context is everything. In Benghazi early on there was an incident where two blacks were tied up, doused with gasoline and then lit on fire to burn to death. Of course these were also pro-Gaddafi mercenaries who had fired on civilians and had been captured by the mob.

No doubt that lynched guy was one of Gaddafi's fighters.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2011, 03:07:12 PM »

Well they did leave Sinai, though that was back when their leadership wasn't quite as insane.
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BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2011, 02:06:23 PM »

Well they are right in a sense, when you consider the "work" of those black workers is fighting as mercenaries for Gaddafi.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2011, 02:07:44 PM »

Algeria is now claiming that Gaddafi and his family have fled the country and are with them now: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/08/29/libya.algeria.gadhafi/
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2011, 12:13:06 AM »

NTC forces have announced that negotiations have failed and they're going to hit Bani Walid. Gaddafi and/or his sons have been rumored to be there at least at some recent point.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2011, 11:56:23 AM »

From a PR standpoint Syria's vote makes perfect sense, standing with Gaddafi gives the opposition a propaganda boost and doesn't exactly help their image internationally which they do need to be a little concerned with now.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2011, 10:32:35 PM »

Sabha has fallen. Bani Walid and Sirte are the last remaining Gaddafi holdouts.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2011, 10:12:54 PM »

Al Jazeera says Bani Walid has fallen, leaving part of Sirte the only holdout.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2011, 10:04:08 AM »

Well bin Laden earlier, now Gaddafi. Maybe we'll get Joseph Kony by the end of the year too?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2011, 02:41:05 AM »

So FDR and Gaddafi are equally worthy of mourning?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2011, 02:54:25 AM »


Howso? I don't see anything wrong with that way of thinking. Brits certainly have good reasons to be happy about Gaddafi being gone.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2011, 09:51:43 AM »

Yes, I just really hope they legalize alcohol.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,260
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #68 on: October 25, 2011, 01:19:52 AM »

They don't have too many suburbs already and I doubt Nader would be visiting there anytime soon.

In regards to Gaddafi's death, the NTC have announced that there will be an investigation (which won't reveal anything everyone didn't already know, he was an asshole and someone shot him) and that he's been buried in an unmarked and unrevealed location somewhere in the desert.
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