Modern Health Education Act (Final Vote)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

ITs well developed to say the least.

I will ned to examine the finer details though a bit more closely.

My first question is what presently exists in this regard and how much are we spending on that?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Am I reading this wrong or are we going to be teaching our children about sex in 1st grade?

I guess it depends on whatever bureaucrat gets to define, "increasing in complexity and sensitivity by grade level".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think 5 1b would have the same effect as eliminating the bake sales and so forth simply because school boards wouldn't risk losing the money and would take a "better safe then sorry approach", and it is just too easy to just ban them in this case and that is exactly what would happen with such wording.

Why would we assume school boards would take the opposite view? Just like why should we assume that the executive agencies will make a priority to discourage debt frontloading in the IBCB or that the courts will always be cautious and conservative in their operations in the Criminal Justice bill. Frankly all I keep hearing in this Senate these days are weak assumptions to justify us not stepping up and taking necessary precautions to ensure certain things are done right. There is a time in place for discretion to be allowed, but when it comes down to cutting money to force banning stuff, why on earth would we presume school boards wouldn't go overboard?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

How much would the facilities to cook such food on site cost for said schools though?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The question was actually directed at PiT's recommendation for cooking food on site.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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We never addressed this problem to my recollection.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

     Exceedingly unhealthy is exceedingly vague.

Do you have any recommendations for a better wording or clarification of the point?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Why are we changing the on school property part? Schools shouldn't have vending machines which just sell sweets

My objective is to make sure that ambiguity doesn't serve to cause bake sales to be banned by fearful LEA's, whose primary responsibility would be to preserve the money flow and not lose the funding. I am sure we can find a way to preserve the restrictions for vending machines though.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The main reason for removing the "on school property" was because I would prefer to not say "none shall be allowed" then proceed with a sentence that lists an exception to said firm prohibition.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Lets fix one problem with the old text before moving on to a second one.

Exceedingly unheathy needs to be defined or someone tasked with defining it as part of the implementation and deployment of these new requirments.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Cris, my amendment is completed right?


If so then we should proceed with fixing the "exceedingly unhealthy"?

Do we prefer to include a definition or to let an agency define it?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is there a group or body of health experts that we could draw an medically based standard from to define the vague text?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What foods would 30 allow for in a given meal as an example?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Finally got the page to open. Kept jamming before for some reason.

From the looks of it though that would limit the main courses that would be acceptable. For instance, chicken breast is below 30, at 24. The only meat I see above 30 is salmon and that is rather expensive last I checked.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Oh I see then.

So for a text, something like "exceedingly unhealthy' is any meal where the average nutient density as figued by x, is below 30"?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well that is the one benefit of the text not having been composed yet is that we can still alter it to reflect these concerns.


So what about "exceedingly unhealthy' is defined as where the average nutient density as figued by x, is below 30 on average for the meals served during a week"?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is their a reputed source from which we can draw that standard from? Like a real life government agency or what not as I worry about using the site linked to as an effective basis for the standard.

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"All this production just to make a single clause" - appropriation of a line from FullMetal Alchemist (only there it was stone, not 'single clause').

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Are there any other areas that need to be addressed in this bill? This was a very small portion of the overall bill I will point out and therefore it should be noted of course that there is a lot more to it than just this issue of school lunches, etc.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

     Looking over the bill, I wonder a bit about Section 6. I know of some very small public high schools. The Oakland Unified School District operates one with 88 students and another with 130. With such small student bodies at some schools, it is conceivable that there is a school where there is simply not interest in a Gay-Straight Alliance.

     I'm not sure what the best way to resolve that is, but I would suggest we take such a possibility into account. The current text requires without qualification that one be established.

I am hessitant to wade into this issue as it would naturally be an area of sensitivity for many and too limit it to just larger schools could potentially leave people in smaller districts left out obviously, but short of a basement on the size of the district, is there any other available means with which to resolve this potential problem?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is 300 a reasonable size? 200?

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I thought you wanted to restore Senate activity?!!!!! The Convention is a seperate entity, doing what you are suggesting would essentially shut down the Senate entirely.

If we had Senators who would actually respond and debate so issues could be resolved and bills debated in a timely fashion than there would not be "ancient bills" on the floor.



I demand that the amendment be considered.