How many bars have you been to?

[bgwah]

I vaguely recall making a sarcastic comment like, once. That hardly amounts to obsessing over you. For an example of that, see your relationship with Libertas. It got so bad you had to go cold turkey from the entire forum.

Or perhaps you're just confusing me with someone else...?

[Joe Republic]

Your memory seems to be failing.   The grudge apparently started (I believe) when I brushed off some kind of moderation-related criticism you leveled against me and off-handedly told you to have a nice weekend instead or something.  Or at least that was what you said when I asked you months later why you had started acting like a dick to me.

And you seem to have the chain of events over the Libertas thing mixed up.

Still, I'm prepared to let bygones be bygones and start over if you like.

[bgwah]

Your memory seems to be failing.   The grudge apparently started (I believe) when I brushed off some kind of moderation-related criticism you leveled against me and off-handedly told you to have a nice weekend instead or something.  Or at least that was what you said when I asked you months later why you had started acting like a dick to me.

And you seem to have the chain of events over the Libertas thing mixed up.

Still, I'm prepared to let bygones be bygones and start over if you like.

Simultaneously trying to get the last word while also extending an olive branch? You can't have it both ways.

And considering this is the first time I've talked to you since you've returned, I thought it was apparent I had already gotten over whatever dispute we had (I don't agree with your description of what happened, but I also don't really care). Why you randomly decided to mention me and my "bitching," I do not know.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Don't worry, Joe. Bgwah hates you because you're a meat-eater.

[Joe Republic]

Fair enough.  All I remember is a few occasions when I'd talk about things I was doing in real life, and you making sarcastic comments in response each time.  I privately asked you why you'd started acting like a dick all of a sudden after we'd been generally cordial, and you mentioned some moderation decision I'd made many moons previously, and then brought up Libertas for whatever reason.  For all I knew you still held the same grudge even now.  Hence the tongue-in-cheek aside to you in my first post in this thread.

But if it's no big deal, it's no big deal.

[Gustaf]

I'm going to see if I can pull this off as an exercise that has remote interest for me.

In my neighbourhood:

1. N'See Bar
2. Sugar Bar
3. Olssons Skor
4. The Doors
5. Some bar between those two
6. Some bar at Odenplan
7. Limerick
8. Bronco's bar
9. Monk's
10. Dovas
11. Saddle Saloon (or something)
12. Galway
13. Some other Irish pub
14. Some pub by Stureplan
15. Konstnärsbaren
16. Texas Steak House
17. Queen's Head
18. My university's pub
19. Some hotel bar close to the central station.
20. O'Leary's

In Södermalm (Southern Stockholm):

21. Snaps
22. Scandic
23. Carmen
24. Soldaten Svejk
25. Some place close to those
26. Pet Sounds
27. Some British pub
28. Vampire Lounge

29+30 pubs of other universities in Stockholm.

[angus]

1. N'See Bar
2. Sugar Bar
3. Olssons Skor
4. The Doors
5. Some bar between those two
6. Some bar at Odenplan
7. Limerick
8. Bronco's bar
9. Monk's
10. Dovas
11. Saddle Saloon (or something)
12. Galway
13. Some other Irish pub
14. Some pub by Stureplan
15. Konstnärsbaren
16. Texas Steak House
17. Queen's Head
18. My university's pub
19. Some hotel bar close to the central station.
20. O'Leary's

In Södermalm (Southern Stockholm):

21. Snaps
22. Scandic
23. Carmen
24. Soldaten Svejk
25. Some place close to those
26. Pet Sounds
27. Some British pub
28. Vampire Lounge

For a neighborhood not in US/UK/Australia/Jamaica/etc., yours certainly does have a high incidence of English (and Irish) names for its businesses.  

I've noticed that in the touristy parts of Latin America as well.  Places like "Johny Bravo's" and "The Simpsons" and "Howdy's" dot the island of Cozumel, for example.  

[Gustaf]

1. N'See Bar
2. Sugar Bar
3. Olssons Skor
4. The Doors
5. Some bar between those two
6. Some bar at Odenplan
7. Limerick
8. Bronco's bar
9. Monk's
10. Dovas
11. Saddle Saloon (or something)
12. Galway
13. Some other Irish pub
14. Some pub by Stureplan
15. Konstnärsbaren
16. Texas Steak House
17. Queen's Head
18. My university's pub
19. Some hotel bar close to the central station.
20. O'Leary's

In Södermalm (Southern Stockholm):

21. Snaps
22. Scandic
23. Carmen
24. Soldaten Svejk
25. Some place close to those
26. Pet Sounds
27. Some British pub
28. Vampire Lounge

For a neighborhood not in US/UK/Australia/Jamaica/etc., yours certainly does have a high incidence of English (and Irish) names for its businesses.  

I've noticed that in the touristy parts of Latin America as well.  Places like "Johny Bravo's" and "The Simpsons" and "Howdy's" dot the island of Cozumel, for example.  

Irish pubs is a quite international concept. I'm going to get back to international places at some point.

[angus]

Irish pubs is a quite international concept. I'm going to get back to international places at some point.

Apparently.  Along with the saloon of the American West.  Here too.  Then again, we actually have lots of folks of Irish descent and of cowboy descent. 

But yeah, I guess it's a cool stereotype.  If you're Irish or a cowboy, you're a hard-drinking fellow that doesn't mind spending a good bit of your hard-earned pay on booze.

Here, independent high-fashion stores always have names like Le Parisien or Rendezvous or some French name.  Does that stereotype exist in Sweden as well?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

There's an Irish pub in Bangor that's painted green, is called Patrick's and which has a sign made up of a cartoon leprechaun and a shamrock.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I'm more suprised that Gustaf could actually do a comprehensive list!

[angus]

There's an Irish pub in Bangor that's painted green, is called Patrick's and which has a sign made up of a cartoon leprechaun and a shamrock.

Exactly the same decor as the Irish pub in Cedar Falls, Iowa.  I can't remember its name but, perhaps fittingly, it is just across the street from the rectory of Saint Patrick's Catholic church.  

[minionofmidas]

One of the two stereotypical "Irish Pubs" (without quotation marks, you'd think pubs in Ireland are all like that! Not so...) in the old Sachsenhausen tourist trap goes by the rather fetching name "The Anglo-Irish" (the other has the typical name of such places here, MacSoandso's). While "An Sibín", also in that general area, is not really an Irish Pub of that type.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Mrs. M. has been to real Irish pubs...when she went to Ireland.  Now that's the real deal, and I'm a jealous bastard, yes.

[angus]

without quotation marks, you'd think pubs in Ireland are all like that! Not so...

not really relevant.  It's marketing.  It's like that picture I posted of that cowboy bar in Lahore, Pakistan with the studly waiter in tight jeans and a ten-gallon hat delivering drinks.  Whether saloons in the old American west featured tall studly waiters in ten-gallon hats isn't important.

I just thought of another ploy that's popular in the US.  Names of restaurant/bars (not bars, but restaurants with bars in them) that have italian and irish names, or mexican and irish names.

For example, there's a chain in Texas called Birra-Poretti's.  ("Heckuva Italian Restaurant, Hell of an Irish bar!") and in Florida there used to be a Luigi Moriarty's.  Here in Cedar Falls there's one called--Ah, it's only about a mile from my house but I'm bad with names, let me see if I can look it up--okay, Carlos O'Kelley's.  It's like we associate Italian and Mexican names with good food, and Irish names with general drunkenness.  Nevermind that the food is not stuff you'd actually find in mexico.  It's mall food.  "chicken fajitas" and such.  And nevermind that the music is piped-in pop.

If you open a bar in the US, consider painting it green, giving it a name that starts with an O, and having a little neon-lamp made in the shape of a clover-leaf for the front window.  So long as you don't start playing actual Irish music, they will come.  And they will buy booze.  If you would also like to sell food, rename it Siobhan Fernandez Bar'n'Grille, and put a little cactus statue outside the front door.

[Gustaf]

Irish pubs is a quite international concept. I'm going to get back to international places at some point.

Apparently.  Along with the saloon of the American West.  Here too.  Then again, we actually have lots of folks of Irish descent and of cowboy descent. 

But yeah, I guess it's a cool stereotype.  If you're Irish or a cowboy, you're a hard-drinking fellow that doesn't mind spending a good bit of your hard-earned pay on booze.

Here, independent high-fashion stores always have names like Le Parisien or Rendezvous or some French name.  Does that stereotype exist in Sweden as well?

Hm. No, I think those kind of stores tend to have English names, actually. Or possibly Italian. Remember, Swedes are extremely Americanized as long as you don't talk politics. The coolest thing is still to dress like a cool American.

And Gramps - I have 3 excuses:

1. I haven't done international bars yet.
2. Stockholm isn't that big.
3. In Sweden beer in bars is extremely expensive, so you tend to drink at home a lot of the time. And I do that a lot. Tonight is a good example.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Irish pubs is a quite international concept. I'm going to get back to international places at some point.

Apparently.  Along with the saloon of the American West.  Here too.  Then again, we actually have lots of folks of Irish descent and of cowboy descent. 

But yeah, I guess it's a cool stereotype.  If you're Irish or a cowboy, you're a hard-drinking fellow that doesn't mind spending a good bit of your hard-earned pay on booze.

Here, independent high-fashion stores always have names like Le Parisien or Rendezvous or some French name.  Does that stereotype exist in Sweden as well?

Hm. No, I think those kind of stores tend to have English names, actually. Or possibly Italian. Remember, Swedes are extremely Americanized as long as you don't talk politics. The coolest thing is still to dress like a cool American.

And Gramps - I have 3 excuses:

1. I haven't done international bars yet.
2. Stockholm isn't that big.
3. In Sweden beer in bars is extremely expensive, so you tend to drink at home a lot of the time. And I do that a lot. Tonight is a good example.

Ha ha, well Gramps' Bar is always open as well, Gustaf.  Amen, it's cheaper.  And I only have to drive upstairs and down the hall....... 

[Gustaf]

I'm going to see if I can pull this off as an exercise that has remote interest for me.

In my neighbourhood:

1. N'See Bar
2. Sugar Bar
3. Olssons Skor
4. The Doors
5. Some bar between those two
6. Some bar at Odenplan
7. Limerick
8. Bronco's bar
9. Monk's
10. Dovas
11. Saddle Saloon (or something)
12. Galway
13. Some other Irish pub
14. Some pub by Stureplan
15. Konstnärsbaren
16. Texas Steak House
17. Queen's Head
18. My university's pub
19. Some hotel bar close to the central station.
20. O'Leary's

In Södermalm (Southern Stockholm):

21. Snaps
22. Scandic
23. Carmen
24. Soldaten Svejk
25. Some place close to those
26. Pet Sounds
27. Some British pub
28. Vampire Lounge

29+30 pubs of other universities in Stockholm.

31. Just remembered the Spanish place on my street - San Leandro or something stereotypical like that.

In Düsseldorf:

32. The Chicken bar
33. Some Irish pub
34. Hooters
35+36+37. Couple of other places that I remember vaguely as regular bars

Berlin:

38. Samuel Beckett's Head
39. A weird place that looked like a regular apartment
40. A strange place with a bedroom in the middle
41. Another weird place that included an art gallery and which I think is famous.

(the above reflects that I'm bad at remembering bar names and that Berlin has weird bars)

42. Skavsta airport bar. Sadly enough.

I've almost certainly been to more places in Berlin but I can't remember any of them.

Helsinki:

43. Some loungey place that wasn't particularly nice.
44. Some strange place where they served what I think was blueberry cider as their specialty.

Riga:
45. Some steakhousey place.
46. A place where they had a great drink called occupation or something. Someone told me it made you feel as if occupied by the Russians. And it did.
47. A place that had two floors and lots of couches.
48. A place that was very Eastern European and neon-y.

Amsterdam:
49. Some place where we had to stand on a table outside to watch the World Cup final.
50. A charming café by a canal.
51. Some place that was a pretty regular bar.

[minionofmidas]

without quotation marks, you'd think pubs in Ireland are all like that! Not so...

not really relevant.  It's marketing. 

Well, of course. I did that just for the sake of clarity.

[Bacon King]

Hmm...

(Not even trying to remember names)

abroad:
3 in Amsterdam
2 in Heidelburg
3? in Munich
1 in Paris
3 in London

US:

1 in Boston, MA

1 in Newport, RI

3? in Athens, GA
1 in Statesboro, GA
5? in the Atlanta metro

3 in Panama City Beach, FL
2 in Destin, FL
3 in Tallahassee, FL
1 in Gainesville, FL

4 in Chapel Hill, NC

New Orleans:
3 drive-up daquiri stands
11 bars around the University
9 bars along uptown parade routes
7? bars on Frenchman St.
18? bars on Bourbon St
8? bars elsewhere in the French Quarter
6 French Quarter Daquiri shops
4 of those places in the French Quarter where they sell you booze out of a window
7 larger dance clubs / music venues with bars
10? other assorted bars around the city   

So, as best I can remember, about 130 (with over half being in NOLA )

[Gustaf]

I'm going to see if I can pull this off as an exercise that has remote interest for me.

In my neighbourhood:

1. N'See Bar
2. Sugar Bar
3. Olssons Skor
4. The Doors
5. Some bar between those two
6. Some bar at Odenplan
7. Limerick
8. Bronco's bar
9. Monk's
10. Dovas
11. Saddle Saloon (or something)
12. Galway
13. Some other Irish pub
14. Some pub by Stureplan
15. Konstnärsbaren
16. Texas Steak House
17. Queen's Head
18. My university's pub
19. Some hotel bar close to the central station.
20. O'Leary's

In Södermalm (Southern Stockholm):

21. Snaps
22. Scandic
23. Carmen
24. Soldaten Svejk
25. Some place close to those
26. Pet Sounds
27. Some British pub
28. Vampire Lounge

29+30 pubs of other universities in Stockholm.

31. Just remembered the Spanish place on my street - San Leandro or something stereotypical like that.

In Düsseldorf:

32. The Chicken bar
33. Some Irish pub
34. Hooters
35+36+37. Couple of other places that I remember vaguely as regular bars

Berlin:

38. Samuel Beckett's Head
39. A weird place that looked like a regular apartment
40. A strange place with a bedroom in the middle
41. Another weird place that included an art gallery and which I think is famous.

(the above reflects that I'm bad at remembering bar names and that Berlin has weird bars)

42. Skavsta airport bar. Sadly enough.

I've almost certainly been to more places in Berlin but I can't remember any of them.

Helsinki:

43. Some loungey place that wasn't particularly nice.
44. Some strange place where they served what I think was blueberry cider as their specialty.

Riga:
45. Some steakhousey place.
46. A place where they had a great drink called occupation or something. Someone told me it made you feel as if occupied by the Russians. And it did.
47. A place that had two floors and lots of couches.
48. A place that was very Eastern European and neon-y.

Amsterdam:
49. Some place where we had to stand on a table outside to watch the World Cup final.
50. A charming café by a canal.
51. Some place that was a pretty regular bar.

Back to Stockholm:

52. Trädgården, in Södermalm
53. Some Cubanesque place, also in Söder
54. Treat
55+56. Two pool bars where I think I spent sufficient time drinking to count as bars.

Budapest:

57. Some place where you could sit in a bathtub and which also sold bikes

Prague:
58. A place that served good absinth and was close to the hotel.

Berlin again:

59. Astro Club
60. A place right next to the above where they played the Partisan the night we were there.

Hamburg:

61. The St Pauli fan club bar
62. A place that had an enormous smoke room filled with weed smokers.

[Gustaf]

I'm going to see if I can pull this off as an exercise that has remote interest for me.

In my neighbourhood:

1. N'See Bar
2. Sugar Bar
3. Olssons Skor
4. The Doors
5. Some bar between those two
6. Some bar at Odenplan
7. Limerick
8. Bronco's bar
9. Monk's
10. Dovas
11. Saddle Saloon (or something)
12. Galway
13. Some other Irish pub
14. Some pub by Stureplan
15. Konstnärsbaren
16. Texas Steak House
17. Queen's Head
18. My university's pub
19. Some hotel bar close to the central station.
20. O'Leary's

In Södermalm (Southern Stockholm):

21. Snaps
22. Scandic
23. Carmen
24. Soldaten Svejk
25. Some place close to those
26. Pet Sounds
27. Some British pub
28. Vampire Lounge

29+30 pubs of other universities in Stockholm.

31. Just remembered the Spanish place on my street - San Leandro or something stereotypical like that.

In Düsseldorf:

32. The Chicken bar
33. Some Irish pub
34. Hooters
35+36+37. Couple of other places that I remember vaguely as regular bars

Berlin:

38. Samuel Beckett's Head
39. A weird place that looked like a regular apartment
40. A strange place with a bedroom in the middle
41. Another weird place that included an art gallery and which I think is famous.

(the above reflects that I'm bad at remembering bar names and that Berlin has weird bars)

42. Skavsta airport bar. Sadly enough.

I've almost certainly been to more places in Berlin but I can't remember any of them.

Helsinki:

43. Some loungey place that wasn't particularly nice.
44. Some strange place where they served what I think was blueberry cider as their specialty.

Riga:
45. Some steakhousey place.
46. A place where they had a great drink called occupation or something. Someone told me it made you feel as if occupied by the Russians. And it did.
47. A place that had two floors and lots of couches.
48. A place that was very Eastern European and neon-y.

Amsterdam:
49. Some place where we had to stand on a table outside to watch the World Cup final.
50. A charming café by a canal.
51. Some place that was a pretty regular bar.

Back to Stockholm:

52. Trädgården, in Södermalm
53. Some Cubanesque place, also in Söder
54. Treat
55+56. Two pool bars where I think I spent sufficient time drinking to count as bars.

Budapest:

57. Some place where you could sit in a bathtub and which also sold bikes

Prague:
58. A place that served good absinth and was close to the hotel.

Berlin again:

59. Astro Club
60. A place right next to the above where they played the Partisan the night we were there.

Hamburg:

61. The St Pauli fan club bar
62. A place that had an enormous smoke room filled with weed smokers.

And Stockholm again:
63. Glenn Miller's

Lund:
64. Arr...something. I recall it was weird.
65. Sydskånska
66. Malmö nation

[Platypus]

Lesse...Melbourne, about 20, Canberra, about 20, Sydney 1, Gundagai 1, Traralgon 1, Shepparton 1, Kilmore 1. Santiago, 8ish, Osorno 1, Vaparaiso 2, Mendoza 1, Cordoba 3, Rosario 1, Puerto Madryn 1, Buenos Aires 10ish, Puerto Iguazu 1, Montevideo 3.

So, around 70-80. If we're only including ones I've had alcohol in, and excluding restaurants (but including bistros...whatever).

[Joe Biden 2020]

One, it was pool lounge in Atlanta, and I didn't drink anything, but coca-cola, just played pool.