Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2014 (Tabled)

[bore]

Senators have 36 hours to object to TNF's amendment

[Simfan34]

TNF likes to do this little wink and a nod as he consistently moves the goal posts. It's cute, no doubt, but I think it's time the Senate stop ceding ground on the issue and call it settled (considering we have already us moving the minimum wage for a significant amount of time).

I agree with Maxwell. TNF needs to be shut down.

A concerned regional executive

[Cranberry]

I guess Yankee's approach is sensible, and I noticed his bill, which I would support if the minimum wage as outlined in it was raised to in fact those $15 per hour we have been talking about. I would think the big issue here is a question of which approach to the issue is preferable to the individual Senators, either the one outlined in this bill, or the one outlined in the bill presented by Senator Yankee. If a majority of Senators should prefer the latter, I wonder if it was not more sensible to go over debating at said bill?

You mean debate it in here as an amendment? I considered that, but the primary purpose is different and the text I outlined was indeed a starting point to provide a clean slate as well as stability moving forward. My personal preference would to at some point move away from the minimum wage but organizing a beefing up of the Nixcome as an alternative would be a tall order seeing as how we barely got the most recent carer's bill finished and the budget (speaks for itself).

I would have proposed going over to debating in your bill's thread once that is opened, I would prefer the mechanism outlined in that bill over this one.

TNF, the problem is not so much that you raised it too much, the problem is that you want it to fix it for five years. Raise it to 15$ this year, then afterwards inflation. Basta.

[windjammer]

Do we still have an inflation rate at 9%?

[Lumine]

Taking on Cranberry's idea, would the Senate be interested in tabling this (or could a Senator motion to table?) seeing that Yankee's approach could be far more effective and realistic?

[TNF]

Taking on Cranberry's idea, would the Senate be interested in tabling this (or could a Senator motion to table?) seeing that Yankee's approach could be far more effective and realistic?

Ah, so now you're interesting in "realism" rather than just scoring cheap political points?

[Lumine]

Taking on Cranberry's idea, would the Senate be interested in tabling this (or could a Senator motion to table?) seeing that Yankee's approach could be far more effective and realistic?

Ah, so now you're interesting in "realism" rather than just scoring cheap political points?

I've always been interested in realism, Senator, shame you can't adopt the same view when it comes to so many areas of policy.

[TNF]

Says the lameduck who refuses to yield to public opinion on an issue.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Says the lameduck who refuses to yield to public opinion on an issue.

To be fair, just because the public want something is not sufficient justification to do it. I support increasing the purchasing power and quality of life of those earning the minimum wage. But we do need to be incredibly wary of the impacts of a delicate inflationary situation.

To clarify, what is the current status when it comes to the Federal minimum wage? 

[bore]

TNF's amendment has been adopted

[windjammer]

Do we still have an inflation rate at 9%?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Do we still have an inflation rate at 9%?

I believe that was recognised as an error and the inflation rate is around 4%.

[TNF]

Says the lameduck who refuses to yield to public opinion on an issue.

To be fair, just because the public want something is not sufficient justification to do it. I support increasing the purchasing power and quality of life of those earning the minimum wage. But we do need to be incredibly wary of the impacts of a delicate inflationary situation.

To clarify, what is the current status when it comes to the Federal minimum wage? 

The minimum wage is currently $12.50 per hour, with regional variation.

[bore]

Seeing as the minimum wage discussion has moved over to the yankee bill, should we table this?

[Cranberry]

Motion to do so, I guess.

[bore]

Motion to do so, I guess.

I'll second

[windjammer]

Motion to do so, I guess.

I'll second

Thirded.

[bore]

Senators a vote is now open on the motion to table, please vote aye nay or abstain

[TNF]

Nay

[Senator Cris]

Aye

[windjammer]

Aye

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

AYE

[bore]

Aye

[Cranberry]

AYE

[Lief 🗽]

Nay