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Question: How would you rate either partys chance at the U.S. Senate?
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Chancellor Tanterterg
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« on: July 17, 2016, 01:31:39 PM »
« edited: July 17, 2016, 01:33:26 PM by Malcolm X »

Lean D, right now we're looking at pickups in NH, OH, IN, IL, WI, AZ, and quite possibly FL (reserving judgement on Murphy until at least a few weeks after the primary), and there's definitely a chance that either PA or MO could flip with a little luck.  
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2016, 02:33:48 PM »

Toss-Up to Tilt R.

Democrats have Wisconsin and Illinois, in all likelihood. Those are the easiest pickings. Let's be generous and give Indiana. They still need two of NH, FL, PA, and OH, PLUS they have to hold NV. Toomey will probably be fine, and I just don't "feel" like Portman will lose. Florida I'd call Tilt R, so even if they get NH, they'd still need one more to be safe, and that's risky, considering that the winner of NV will probably be the same party as the winner of the Presidency.

Generous would be giving the Democrats IL, WI, NH, OH, FL, PA, AZ, MO, IN, and holding NV.  A Republican winning statewide in NV with Trump on the top of the ticket is about as likely as a Democrat winning statewide in OH in 2010 (i.e. it's simply not happening, period).  Indiana and New Hampshire are both leaning Democratic, so that's already four seats.  We could call Indiana a toss-up if we wanted to be generous to the Republicans, but there's really no evidence that Bayh doesn't have the double-digit lead that Democratic internals were suggesting (for one thing, he never would've gotten in unless he thought it was a slam-dunk).

Speaking as someone who lives in Ohio and has been following the Senate race pretty closely, that one is going to be extremely close either way, but between Trump, Strickland's truly bipartisan popularity in Appalachia, the fact that the Presidential race will boost African-American turnout (which was a problem for Strickland in 2010), Portman being so anonymous that he may have lower name recognition than Strickland (seriously, no one here knows who Portman even is), and the fact that the race is basically tied right now despite the fact that I've been seeing literally about 5-8 Portman ads a week for a while now compared to 1-2 ads for Strickland (an advantage Portman won't have once we get closer to the election), I suspect Strickland will narrowly pull out a win.  

In Arizona, McCain has been running a pretty weak campaign while Kirkpatrick has been running a surprisingly strong one (complete with what is easily the best ad I've seen this cycle from a Senate candidate).  This is also going to be McCain's first competitive general election in Arizona since...ever and he isn't nearly as popular as he used to be (for one thing, he has no cross-party appeal).  And let's not forget that Trump is on the ballot Tongue  I don't see how McCain wins re-election, although this race is still a toss-up.  

We won't really know much about Florida until we're a good 3-4 weeks past the primary.  Missouri will be pretty close and while I think Blunt will skate by, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see him lose.  Toomey would probably be looking at a 7-8 point victory in a normal year, but it's already become clear that Trump is really dragging him down.  Right now, I think Toomey is probably looking at a 3-4 point victory (he's a pretty strong incumbent, McGinty is a weak B-lister at best, and PA has a strong Republican party), but if there really is a Democratic wave then Toomey might be screwed.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2016, 02:50:44 PM »
« Edited: July 17, 2016, 02:52:34 PM by Malcolm X »

Malcolm X, why don't you consider North Carolina competitive? I realize that Ross isn't the best candidate, but remember what happened in 2008.

I think the Republicans will be forced to spend some money in North Carolina and Iowa, but I don't think Democrats have a realistic chance of actually winning either seat (especially NC).  IIRC, Burr is polling well enough that if most of the Republican-leaning undecideds end up vote for him (which they will), he shouldn't be more than 1-2% away from 50% (he might even be over it).  And he'll obviously get some undecideds, even if they break for Ross overall.  The numbers just aren't there right now.  I'd also add that Hagen didn't really win in 2008, so much as Dole lost.  The "Godless" ad really hurt Dole and was a big reason for her defeat (along with an unusually Democratic electorate in NC that year).  

On the other hand, I think Vilsack would probably have beaten Grassley this cycle were he the nominee.  As it is, Judge will make it far closer than it should be (probably an 8-12 point Grassley victory).  The Garland stuff definitely did some serious, lasting damage to Grassley's brand with both Democrats (he seems to no longer have much cross-over appeal) and independents.  Luckily for Republicans, Judge is almost certainly not a strong enough candidate to take advantage of this.  Grassley would be wise not to run for re-election in 2022 though imo.
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