List of Alternate Presidents

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37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1969-1975
38. George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/vacant, Gerald R. Ford (Republican-Michigan) 1975-1977
39. Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri)/Henry M. Jackson (Democrat-Washington) 1977-1981
40. George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Larry Pressler (Republican-South Dakota) 1981-1985
41. Reueben O. Askew (Democrat-Florida)/Robert P. Casey (Democrat-Pennsylvania) 1985-1993
42. Hillary Rodham-Gingrich (Republican-Illinois)/Judd Gregg (Republican-New Hampshire) 1993-2001
43. Judd Gregg (Republican-New Hampshire)/Lamar Alexander (Republican-Tennessee) 2001-2005
44. William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas)/John F. Kerry (Democrat-Massachusetts) 2005-2009
45. Barack H. Obama (Republican-Illinois)/Thomas Coburn (Republican-Oklahoma) 2009-2017

The 2016 election is between former Secretary of State Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and former Governor Brian Schweitzer (R-MT).

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"Conservative movement" lol.

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Marxist-Lincolnism

6. John Quincy Adams (National Republican-Massachusetts) 1825-1829
7. Andrew Jackson (Democrat-Tennessee) 1829-1833
8. Henry Clay (National-Kentucky) 1833-1841
9. Andrew Jackson (Democrat-Tennessee) 1841
10. Martin Van Buren (Democrat-New York) 1841-1845
11. Daniel Webster (National-Massachusetts) 1845-1852
12. Millard Fillmore (National-New York) 1852-1857
13. John Bell (National-Tennessee) 1857-1861
14. Abraham Lincoln (Republican-Illinois) 1861-1865
15. Horace Greeley (Republican-New York) 1865-1872
16. Charles Francis Adams II (Republican-Massachusetts) 1872-1873
17. Cassius M. Clay (Republican-Kentucky) 1873-1881
18. Theodore Roosevelt Sr. (National-New York) 1881
19. Rutherford B. Hayes (National-Ohio) 1881-1885
20. S. Grover Cleveland (National-New York) 1885-1893
21. James B. Weaver (Republican-Iowa) 1893-1903
22. Thomas B. Watson (Republican-Georgia) 1903-1905
23. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (National-New York) 1905-1917

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(This is just a random unrealistic scenario/though experiment I had about who would win each election if the running mates were the presidential candidates. Involves a large amount of assassinations and stuff in order to justify why certain winning candidates don't run for reelection.)

The Tournament of Second Bananas

Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1961-1962[1]
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Vacant: 1962-1965
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 1965-1969
Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Bob Dole (R-KS): 1969-1973[2]
Bob Dole (R-KS)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX): 1973-1981
Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): 1981-1981[3]
Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 1981-1989
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Al Gore (D-TN): 1989-1991[4]
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 1991-2001
Dick Cheney(R-WY)/John McCain(R-AZ): 2001-2009
Joe Biden (D-DE)/Hillary Clinton(D-NY): 2009-2017

[1]Assassinated becasue... reasons...
[2]Resigns due to the same tax scandals as IRL
[3]Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr
[4]Another lazily written assassination

(The conclusion I've come to in this, is that Republican running mates usually suck. )

Bush would win in 1984

Quayle in 1988 and 1992 also

You can't be serious.

Yup I am serious.

I think Ryan would have beaten Biden in 2012

I wasn't sure about 2012, but unless I'm misremembering Biden did better in the debates, so I went with him.

Ryan got decimated. Easy Biden win.

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Vice Presidents
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4, 1933-April 12, 1945¹
33. Harry S Truman (D-MO): April 12, 1945-January 20, 1949
34. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY): January 20, 1949-January 20, 1957
35. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): January 20, 1957-January 20, 1965
36. John F. Kennedy (D-MA): January 20, 1965-January 20, 1973
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): January 20, 1973-January 20, 1981
41. Walter Mondale (D-MN): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
42. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
43. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
44. Albert "Al" Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
45. John Kasich (R-OH): January 20, 2013-present

Vice Presidents
32. John N. Garner (D-TX): March 4, 1933-January 20, 1941
33. Henry A. Wallace (D-IA): January 20, 1941-January 20, 1945
34. Harry S Truman (D-MO): January 20, 1945-April 12, 1945
Office vacant April 12, 1945-January 20, 1949
35. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20, 1949-October 4, 1953²
Office vacant October 4, 1953-February 13, 1954
36. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): February 13, 1954-January 20, 1957
37.
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20, 1965-January 20, 1973
39. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20, 1973-January 26, 1979¹
Office vacant January 26, 1979-March 3, 1979
40. George Romney (R-MI): March 3, 1979-January 20, 1981
41. Gary Hart (D-CO): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
42. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
43. Bob Dole (R-KS): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
44. Bob Kerrey (D-NE): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
45. Paul Ryan (R-WI): January 20, 2013-present


¹Died in office of natural causes
²Resigned to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and was sworn in one day later.

Only ones I like here.... JFK and Kemp. I see no anti-establishment conservatives besides the two of them. Looks like no Reagan Revolution, no rise of evangelicals,  left wing of GOP is stronger but conservatives have no place to go.

Kasich/Ryan is a pretty conservative ticket.

Kemp is more conservative by himself then the two of them.

Wasn't Kemp pretty pro-illegals? And as I recall, he had few problems with an unbalanced budget.

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37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY)/John G. Tower (R-TX) 1965-1972
38. John G. Tower (R-TX)/vacant, Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD) 1972-1977
39. Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/James E. Carter (D-GA) 1977-1981
40. James E. Carter (D-GA)/vacant, Gary Hart (D-CO) 1981-1985
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN) 1985-1993
42. Edmund "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA)/Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA), William J. Bradley (D-NJ) 1993-2001
43. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Rudolph W. Giuliani (R-NY) 2001-2006
44. Rudolph W. Giuliani (R-NY)/vacant, John Boehner (R-OH) 2006-2013
45. Barack H. Obama, Jr. (D-IL)/Larry Pressler (D-SD) 2013-2021

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George H. W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Paul Laxalt (Republican-Nevada) 1981-1989
James Traficant (Democrat-Ohio)/William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 1989-1997
William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1997-2005
George W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 2005-2009
Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Hawaii)/Evan Bayh (Democrat-Indiana) 2009-2013
Hillary Rodham-Weld (Republican-Illinois)/"Mitt" Romney (Republican-Utah) 2013-2017
Dr. Jill Stein (Democrat-Massachusetts)/"Bernie" Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-Present

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George H. W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Paul Laxalt (Republican-Nevada) 1981-1989
James Traficant (Democrat-Ohio)/William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 1989-1997
William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1997-2005
George W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 2005-2009
Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Hawaii)/Evan Bayh (Democrat-Indiana) 2009-2013
Hillary Rodham-Weld (Republican-Illinois)/"Mitt" Romney (Republican-Utah) 2013-2017
Dr. Jill Stein (Democrat-Massachusetts)/"Bernie" Sanders (Democrat-Vermont) 2017-Present[/color]

RIP America FF.

Worry not! Dr. Stein with her trailblazing Secretary of State Michael Flynn managed to establish detente with the Soviet Union and end the Cold War, a mere century and three years after the October Revolution!

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1909-1913 William H. Taft (Republican)
1913-1919 Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
1919-1921 Thomas Marshall (Democratic)
1921-1925 A. Mitchell Palmer (Democratic)
1925-1933 Al Smith (Democratic)
1933-1941 Norman Thomas (Socialist)
1941-1945 Roger Babson (Prohibition)
1945-1949 Norman Thomas (Socialist)
1949-1953 Henry Wallace (Progressive)
1953-1961 Eric Hass (Socialist Labor)
1961-1969 Orval Faubus (Nationalist)
1969-1973 Fred Halstead (Socialist Workers)
1973-1977 Louis Fisher (Socialist Labor)
1977-1985 Peter Camejo (Socialist Workers)
1985-1989 Gus Hall (Communist Party USSA)
1989-1993 Lyndon LaRouche (National Movement)
1993-2000 Ron Daniels (Peace and Freedom)
2000-2010 (Military Junta after December 2000 Coup)
2010-2017 Barack H. Obama (New Democracy)



Can anyone can figure out the pattern behind this list?

I mean, I assume it's meant to mirror the goings-on of another, perhaps poorer and at some point communist or socialist-controlled country (presumably in Latin America or the Warsaw Pact), but I'm not sure which...

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34. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican-New York)/Earl Warren (Republican-California) 1949-1953
35. Harry S. Truman (Democrat-Missouri)/Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. (Democrat-Massachusetts) 1953-1957
36. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat-Texas) 1957-1965
37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/Hiram Fong (Republican-Hawaii) 1965-1973
38. Frank Sinatra (Democrat-Florida)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri) 1973-1979
39. Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri)/vacant 1979-1981
40. William Warren Scranton (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Spiro T. Agnew (Republican-Maryland), George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1981-1989
41. Charles Wilson (Democrat-Texas)/Jeanne Kirkpatrick (Democrat-New York) 1989-1997
42. William W. Scranton, III (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Newton L. Gingrich (Republican-Georgia) 1997-2001
43. L. Douglas Wilder (Democrat-Virginia)/J. Richard Perry (Democrat-Texas) 2001-2009
44. Joseph R. Biden (Republican-Delaware)/John Kasich (Republican-Ohio) 2009-2017
45. Robert P. Casey (Democrat-Pennsylvania)/Steve Bullock (Democrat-Montana) 2017-Present

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Rerunning an old theme I've toyed with.

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1953-1955
35. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1955-1957
36. Adlai E. Stevenson, II (Democrat-Illinois)/Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1957-1961
37. Cecil H. Underwood (Republican-West Virginia)/Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois) 1961-1963
38. Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois)/Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1963-1969
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1969-1973
40. John F. Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri) 1973-1981
41. John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Mark O. Hatfield (Republican-Oregon) 1981-1989

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Rerunning an old theme I've toyed with.

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1953-1955
35. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1955-1957
36. Adlai E. Stevenson, II (Democrat-Illinois)/Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1957-1961
37. Cecil H. Underwood (Republican-West Virginia)/Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois) 1961-1963
38. Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois)/Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1963-1969
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1969-1973
40. John F. Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri) 1973-1981
41. John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Mark O. Hatfield (Republican-Oregon) 1981-1989

JFK in the 70s.... that would've been something to see.

Very broken down and rather useless toward the end of his term, as his illness eerily matched the decay of the American economy.

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18. Benjamin Wade (Republican-Pennsylvania) 1867-1873
19. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican-Illinois) 1873-1877
20. John Quincy Adams, II (Liberal-Massachusetts) 1877-1881
21. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican-Illinois) 1881-1885
22. William McKinley (Republican-Ohio) 1885-1893
23. David B. Hill (Liberal-New York) 1893-1897
24. William Jennings Bryan (People's-Nebraska) 1897-1905
25. Thomas Watson (People's-Georgia) 1905-1909
26. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York) 1909-1921
27. Leonard Wood (Republican-New Hampshire) 1921-1925
28. Alfred E. Smith (Liberal-New York) 1925-1933
29. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (Republican-New York) 1933-1937
30. Huey P. Long (People's-Louisiana) 1937-1945
31. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (Republican-New York) 1945-1946
32. Charles Halleck (Republican-Indiana) 1946-1949
32. Earl Warren (Liberal-California) 1949-1957
33. George M. Leader (People's-Pennsylvania) 1957-1965
34. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1965-1977
35. Ronald W. Reagan (People's-California) 1977-1981
36. Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown (Liberal-California) 1981-1989
37. Prescott Bush, Jr. (Republican-Connecticut) 1989-1993
38. Newton L. Gingrich (Liberal-Georgia) 1993-2001
39. Joseph I. Lieberman (Republican-Connecticut) 2001-2009
40. John Edwards (People's-North Carolina) 2009-2017
41. Michael Huckabee (Republican-Arkansas) 2017-Present

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I've always regretted Ted Jr. never had a bigger career. This guy had some balls.

A true patriot.

In case it's not evident, in this timeline, the Republicans become far less laissez-faire and have a conscious focus on "maintaining capitalism" through concessions with workers groups and protectionism. The People's Party is fairly self-evident in its transformation from being a rather radical party (albeit with some regrettable segregationist tendencies) to nowadays being a fairly standard center-left party that maintains a "color-blind" image. The Liberals, on the other hand, went from being a rather generic reform-based alternative to the corrupt Republicans, to being a defender of minority rights (though largely outside of the South) as well as devolution, to being a self-consciously moderate party following Huey Long's rein. Finally, with the stagnation of the 1970s, they were commandeered into a third way and rather laissez-faire group under Brown and Gingrich. Their last two presidents would be comparable to some combination of how OTL Republicans discuss small government and how some Democrats might celebrate gun or environmental legislation while skimming over issues such as wages or equality. African-Americans were tied to the Republicans rather loyally, delivering them several Southern states, up until the 1930s. Republicans have fancied themselves the natural party of government up until Lieberman's second term. For the twenty years after Prescott Bush's election, they began to embrace laissez-faire economics and deregulation more consistently, much to the detriment of their congressional electoral prospects. Under Huckabee they have "righted" themselves.

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36. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat-Texas) 1963-1965
37. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts)/Henry Bellmon (Republican-Oklahoma) 1965-1969
38. Robert F. Kennedy (Democrat-New York)/James E. Carter (Democrat-Georgia) 1969-1977
39. James E. Carter (Democrat-Georgia)/Morris K. Udall (Democrat-Arizona) 1977-1981
40. George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas)/Malcolm Wilson (Republican-New York) 1981-1989
41. Gary Hart (Democrat-Colorado)/Geraldine Ferraro (Democrat-New York) 1989-1993
42. Robert J. Dole (Republican-Kansas)/David A. Stockman (Republican-Michigan) 1993-2001
43. Geraldine Ferraro (Democrat-New York)/John Breaux (Democrat-Louisiana) 2001-2009
44. Jon Huntsman, Jr. (Republican-Utah)/Mark Sanford (Republican-South Carolina) 2009-2017
45. Mark Sanford (Republican-South Carolina)/Michael Steele (Republican-Maryland) 2017-Present

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Huntsman and Sanford as co-Presidents from 2009-2017, with the latter living in both SC and UT? Interesting.

Fixed.