The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[Mr. Morden]

Breaking: HFC announces support for new bill:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/857275725119991808

Once more with feeling, if it touches Medicaid and Medicare, it is not passing.

We have to keep telling ourselves this but with these guys...forget it, they'll pass it anyway

Chances in the house... 30-40%, Chances in the Senate... 0-5%

They could just change the rules in the Senate to pass it without 60 votes

Last I checked there were only 52 GOP senators, and there is no way that they get Collins/Murkowski on this, so they have to hold everyone else, and use Pence.... Given that COTTON seemed to hate the AHCA, I kinda doubt that would happen.

Reps don't care...they'll do it anyway. Read the memos Congressional GOPers send themselves. They think they have 100% backing from the American public...it's like a cult over there

Isn't that what you were saying before the previous version of Trumpcare collapsed?

[Mr. Morden]

They had seven years to come up with a coherent ~conservative health care solution~. SEVEN ING YEARS OF CONSTANTLY RUNNING ON OPPOSING THE ACA. Is this turkey all they're capable of?! Is it all they want to be capable of?! Why the hell didn't they prepare a halfway acceptable bill two, or five, or seven years ago that they could pass when they got a Republican trifecta?! Why didn't they spend any of that seven years coming up with something that wouldn't cause people to die in a heap if passed?

It's not that complicated.  They didn't come up with anything better than this "turkey" because there is no "good" bill that can pass on Republican votes alone.  The Republicans disagree among themselves about what kind of role the government should have in the health insurance industry, and the policy preferences of many of them are too politically unpalatable to put forward.  Yet they need to almost unanimously agree on whatever passes, because their majorities are narrow.