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« Reply #425 on: April 10, 2017, 08:43:19 PM »

Do you see Democrats asking the Obamas, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, the Clintons, or anyone to campaign for Ossoff? Are the Clintons and the Obamas too "politically and personally damaged" to make an visit?
I feel like having Obama or Clinton campaign there, would only remind Republican voters to get out and vote against the politicians they hate. Bernie is a great guy to have in places like Montana, but I can't imagine him being popular in Georgia suburb.
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« Reply #426 on: April 10, 2017, 09:15:01 PM »

2016 Republican primary voters aren't necessarily Republican voters in this election.
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« Reply #427 on: April 10, 2017, 09:36:25 PM »

So I see people are overreacting as usual. You'd think a forum like this wouldn't try to call the election based on early voting, especially after what happened last year.

I learned my lesson.
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« Reply #428 on: April 10, 2017, 09:39:16 PM »

So I see people are overreacting as usual. You'd think a forum like this wouldn't try to call the election based on early voting, especially after what happened last year.

Who's calling the election?
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« Reply #429 on: April 10, 2017, 09:41:13 PM »

2016 Republican primary voters aren't necessarily Republican voters in this election.

^This

But it'll be more useful to see the final voting percentages and the polls leading up to the June runoff. Don't be surprised if Republicans royally screw the pooch in Congress in the interim either, adding more fuel to the flames. Nothing's off the table until the vote happens, as last election taught us.
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« Reply #430 on: April 11, 2017, 12:57:10 PM »

Again, early voting party preference is just not predictive of final totals.
Also waaaay too many assumptions on here that unaffiliated and new registrants are auto Ossoff supporters.

If Ossoff gets 50+1 I'll be the most shocked person in history.
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« Reply #431 on: April 11, 2017, 01:37:10 PM »

Also waaaay too many assumptions on here that unaffiliated and new registrants are auto Ossoff supporters.
From what I've heard most of the new registrants are more likely to be younger minorities, so I think it's fair to assume a majority of the new registrants are gonna be voting for Ossof. Otherwise yeah, I don't trust early voting very much.
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« Reply #432 on: April 11, 2017, 09:34:35 PM »

Still predicting that Ossoff hits 50% on the first ballot and avoids a run-off.
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« Reply #433 on: April 11, 2017, 09:45:21 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?
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« Reply #434 on: April 11, 2017, 09:47:21 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Considering the demographics here vs. KS-04, I'd say yes. Especially since Hillary did in November. However with many different Republicans to choose from, I think it's unlikely they'll cross over as much in the first round as they would if it were one on one.
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« Reply #435 on: April 11, 2017, 09:51:20 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Well that's the only reason that this election is such a hot-topic. In a recent poll, something like 18% of the district's residents identified as Democrats versus nearly 50% who said they were Republicans. You cannot win Ga-6 without Republicans voting for you.
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« Reply #436 on: April 11, 2017, 09:51:26 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Cohn has verified "a lot of people who last voted in a Republican primary who are voting for Ossoff" on Twitter, so possibly. Clinton won ~17% of Republican primary voters in this district, so I'd say there's a decent chance Ossoff is getting at least 10% or more.

Getting Rubio (and Kasich) primary voters in suburban ATL seems like a more doable task than flipping registered Rs in Kansas who probably went for Cruz. However, Democrats need to get more young people out to vote on Election Day, because the early vote is looking very old, which means the pool of highly probable voters on Election Day is drying up.
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« Reply #437 on: April 11, 2017, 09:55:09 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Cohn has verified "a lot of people who last voted in a Republican primary who are voting for Ossoff" on Twitter, so possibly. Clinton won ~17% of Republican primary voters in this district, so I'd say there's a decent chance Ossoff is getting at least 10% or more.

He hasn't "verified;" he's modeled. Big difference.
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« Reply #438 on: April 11, 2017, 10:06:07 PM »

The amount of Kansas Republicans voting Dem may also be due to Brownback's unpopularity with moderate R's. Some of the same Republicans that backed Paul Davis.
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« Reply #439 on: April 11, 2017, 10:15:45 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Cohn has verified "a lot of people who last voted in a Republican primary who are voting for Ossoff" on Twitter, so possibly. Clinton won ~17% of Republican primary voters in this district, so I'd say there's a decent chance Ossoff is getting at least 10% or more.

He hasn't "verified;" he's modeled. Big difference.

No. As in he actually has interacted with "a lot" of these people on Twitter and verified against the voter rolls.

Uh huh...
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« Reply #440 on: April 11, 2017, 10:24:26 PM »

I'm gonna go ahead and project that Ossoff is going to lose. The negative attacks are starting to get stronger, and I'm already seeing Ossoff's limits as a candidate.
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« Reply #441 on: April 11, 2017, 10:35:31 PM »

Personally, I'm going to wait until next week before I try to gauge where this race is headed. I highly doubt that Ossoff will win outright. Maybe he'll get near 45% if he has a good night, but I'm almost positive this will head to a run-off, and then we'll have a better idea who's favored.
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« Reply #442 on: April 11, 2017, 10:49:36 PM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Cohn has verified "a lot of people who last voted in a Republican primary who are voting for Ossoff" on Twitter, so possibly. Clinton won ~17% of Republican primary voters in this district, so I'd say there's a decent chance Ossoff is getting at least 10% or more.

He hasn't "verified;" he's modeled. Big difference.

No. As in he actually has interacted with "a lot" of these people on Twitter and verified against the voter rolls.

Uh huh...


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Whatever dude. Doubt it if you want

Twitter does not comprise a representative nor notably large sample of such voters.
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« Reply #443 on: April 12, 2017, 01:34:41 AM »

Like KS-04 could Ossoff do really well with rep voters?

Cohn has verified "a lot of people who last voted in a Republican primary who are voting for Ossoff" on Twitter, so possibly. Clinton won ~17% of Republican primary voters in this district, so I'd say there's a decent chance Ossoff is getting at least 10% or more.

If Nate Cohn thinks it looks well for the Dems, you guys should be really worried :-D
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« Reply #444 on: April 12, 2017, 02:53:45 AM »

Republicans absolutely crushed Dems today:

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Not liking what I see.  Ossoff might not even hit 40% on the first ballot when push comes to shove.
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« Reply #445 on: April 12, 2017, 08:08:06 AM »

The important question for today:

Does Estes's less-than-10% victory in KS-04 mean Ossoff has a greater chance to take GA-06?

Personally, I would say maybe slightly since the districts are not really connected to each other, even with some momentum.  I would've thought the media would've been saying last night put GA-06 and MT-AL, not to mention the entire House, in more of a tossup position, but no one really did.
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« Reply #446 on: April 12, 2017, 08:08:25 AM »

Republicans absolutely crushed Dems today:

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Not liking what I see.  Ossoff might not even hit 40% on the first ballot when push comes to shove.

Don't make estimates based on early voting.
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« Reply #447 on: April 12, 2017, 08:39:10 AM »

The important question for today:

Does Estes's less-than-10% victory in KS-04 mean Ossoff has a greater chance to take GA-06?

Personally, I would say maybe slightly since the districts are not really connected to each other, even with some momentum.  I would've thought the media would've been saying last night put GA-06 and MT-AL, not to mention the entire House, in more of a tossup position, but no one really did.

This race probably says more about MT-AL. A Berniecrat's running there against Gianforte, receiving a lot of grassroots support and could actually win.
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« Reply #448 on: April 12, 2017, 08:48:24 AM »

especially since those states are known to be more populist-friendly (at least theoretically and historically) than GA.
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« Reply #449 on: April 12, 2017, 09:52:37 AM »

Democrats had an advantage in early voting for 11 days, which suggests that most of their voters have already voted by now. There is also the fact that not every Republican showing up is voting for a Republican.
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