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« on: August 15, 2017, 03:24:11 PM »

I just turned on the TV hearing that Trump was doing this press conference. I just missed it, but the first words I heard from the pundits were "self-immolation minus the flames."
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 03:41:03 PM »

A female reporter of The Hill in Charlottesville was punched in the face by a counter-protestor who didn't like her filming there: https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/896442225600671744

Are people seriously saying that that should not be condemned because the man who punched her was "on the right side"?

No. Nobody is defending him, and he should be condemned. He should not, however, be condemned in the same sentence condemning someone who plowed their car into a crowd, killed someone, and critically injured others. Not on the same level, not even close, and there's many ways you can state that clearly. Trump didn't do that, and he didn't try. He has again and again tried to place any and all violence on those protecting their city and country from White supremacist terrorists, regardless of their individual political persuasion, on the same level as the White supremacist terrorists themselves. This is an especially tenuous comparison to try to make when a member of his own party in Congress punched a reporter the day before his election, getting no response whatsoever from the White House.

Compare:
"We're closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. Many sides."

"Today a white supremacist terrorist killed an American exercising her First Amendment right and standing up for our country and the values we hold dear. We stand with her and against anyone who resorts to violence when they can't defend their political positions."

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 03:59:14 PM »

Fox News is talking about sanctuary cities right now, in case anyone is curious.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 06:38:04 PM »

This is probably only the third time in his presidency that we have reached level six on 538's meter of Trump Opposition, the other two being the first travel ban and the second being the firing of James Comey.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-trump-opposition-meter/

Are there any others that have reached this level of rank-and-file Republican opposition?
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 08:01:14 PM »

Map of Republican Senators who have repudiated/criticized Trump's statements.



30% shading is one senator, if two Republican Senators from the same state make statements, I'll switch it to 60%
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 12:30:26 PM »

To all the "both sides do it" people in this thread, here's some food for thought.

The History of Blaming 'Both Sides' and Why Language Matters

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I don't think anarchists are good people....they are like the Nazis. They're both violent.

Do you have any self awareness?

Did the NAACP show up in face masks with clubs, and throw bottles or balloons with piss and sh**t in them? Did the NAACP smash the windows of businesses and start fires? Anarcho-Communists are just as bad and just as dangerous as neo-nazis and they need to be equally condemned instead of protected by the establishment media.

To me, this is as stupid as saying "yes, Al-Qaeda is bad, but some of those Wall Street bankers are... woof, they're awful. So corrupt. Really, it's two sides of the same coin if you think about it." The day after 9/11.
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