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« on: October 09, 2019, 04:42:23 AM »

Or is it a “state” that includes multiple “nations”?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 05:08:02 AM »

There is an American national identity, founding mythology, national symbolism, shared idea of what it "means" to be American in terms of culture and identity. Of course it's a nation state.

It may not include some idea of genetic heritage in the way that other nation-states do (and in any case, trying to make nationhood dependent on ideas of genetics always means ignoring certain inconvenient facts), but is not even unique in that - and it certainyl doesn't mean it isn't a nation-state-
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2019, 03:26:20 PM »

No, its an empire that controls multiple nations.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2019, 05:44:38 PM »

No, its an empire that controls multiple nations.
Name these “nations,” Nasi.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2019, 09:25:51 PM »

No, its an empire that controls multiple nations.
Name these “nations,” Nasi.

New England, Texas, California, Mountain West, Appalachia, Deep South and so on
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2019, 11:11:16 PM »

No, its an empire that controls multiple nations.
Name these “nations,” Nasi.

New England, Texas, California, Mountain West, Appalachia, Deep South and so on

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2019, 01:52:24 AM »

Yes.  It might not have been at its founding (or even up until Reconstruction), but the U.S. had been trending toward nation-statehood for quite some time now like other large, diverse, multiethnic countries (i.e., Brazil, China, etc.)
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2019, 02:12:55 AM »

It may not include some idea of genetic heritage in the way that other nation-states do (and in any case, trying to make nationhood dependent on ideas of genetics always means ignoring certain inconvenient facts), but is not even unique in that - and it certainyl doesn't mean it isn't a nation-state-
I’ve never heard of nationhood being defined by genetics post-1945. Even the most genetically homogeneous “nations” don’t define themselves by genetics today.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2019, 03:44:02 PM »

No, its an empire that controls multiple nations.
Name these “nations,” Nasi.

New England, Texas, California, Mountain West, Appalachia, Deep South and so on

Lmao

Besides speaking dialects of English and being majority Christian, most of these regions have or at least had little in common, culturally.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2019, 12:23:20 AM »

Besides speaking dialects of English and being majority Christian, most of these regions have or at least had little in common, culturally.
Oh? You mean like some sort of common history and popular culture?
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