Authorities say hate motivated Kansas shooting

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He was a Paulite/Buchananite paleocon with a visceral hatred of anyone who was not a white Christian.

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Is it really necessary to mention Paulite/Buchananites/paleocons in that post? The guy who shot Gabby Giffords was a leftist, but that has nothing to do with his insanity. These types of post really don't create the climate of harmony needed to counter act such incidents as what happened in Kansas.

I think it's pretty obvious that his political leanings went hand-in-hand with his odious racial views. I'm not implying that all Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan supporters are hate criminals or murderers. But someone who shoots up a Jewish community center and talks about "mud people" is not going to be a modern Democrat or a pro-immigration reform Jeb Bush Republican.

Sure, but you're going out of your way to throw mud and tar the reputation of a political ideology.

Ron Paul is a little more complicated. (I bet he's an anti-Semite though)

But, Pat Buchanan is a rabid anti-Semite who admires Adolf Hitler.  There's certainly an association between hating Jews and being a Nazi sympathizer and committing violent hate crimes. 

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He was a Paulite/Buchananite paleocon with a visceral hatred of anyone who was not a white Christian.

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Is it really necessary to mention Paulite/Buchananites/paleocons in that post? The guy who shot Gabby Giffords was a leftist, but that has nothing to do with his insanity. These types of post really don't create the climate of harmony needed to counter act such incidents as what happened in Kansas.

I think it's pretty obvious that his political leanings went hand-in-hand with his odious racial views. I'm not implying that all Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan supporters are hate criminals or murderers. But someone who shoots up a Jewish community center and talks about "mud people" is not going to be a modern Democrat or a pro-immigration reform Jeb Bush Republican.

Sure, but you're going out of your way to throw mud and tar the reputation of a political ideology.

Ron Paul is a little more complicated. (I bet he's an anti-Semite though)

But, Pat Buchanan is a rabid anti-Semite who admires Adolf Hitler.  There's certainly an association between hating Jews and being a Nazi sympathizer and committing violent hate crimes. 

Supporting non interventionism in World War II is NOT admiring Hitler. And your psychoanalyzing of Ron Paul was cute.

Well, Pat Buchanan both admires Hitler and thinks we should have capitulated to Hitler during WWII.  I wonder why.

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Hitler was a leader. An evil, sociopathic leader who had "courage", what ever Buchanan intends that to mean. I could argue that he had "balls" by taking on Russia, but it seems pretty clear to me that Buchanan is defending the man.

I retract my defense of Buchanan.

Pat Buchanan is not a Nazi-supporter or someone who supports genocide, slavery or human experiments, etc.  I'll admit that myself.  I just said Buchanan is an admirer of Hitler which is illustrated by your quote. 

I also have to believe that someone who is willing to say someone that admiring of Hitler in print and is a general racist twit in public has private beliefs that go into the territory of outright insane.

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Does it really matter what motivated him?  Multiple premeditated murders pretty much should be a capital crime if you believe in the death penalty and life without parole if you don't.

I don't think this is a difficult case for the prosecutor.  But, the logic of hate crime law is that there's something more anti-social and depraved about killing someone because of the race, religion, ethnicity, etc versus killing someone over a disagreement or a personal matter.

I think it matters because race-based violence/terrorism is something beyond just a mere murder.  It's an assault on a group of people and the cosmopolitan multi-ethnic community we live in.