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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 28, 2016, 12:53:31 PM »

Spoiler alert:

"Born Again" doesn't actually mean anything.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
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Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2016, 01:44:58 PM »

"Born Again" doesn't actually mean anything.

I think it probably means something, at least to the people who use the phrase seriously.  In the gospel according to St. John, Jesus said something about being born again.  I don't read Greek, though, so I don't actually know what John said, just what translation say he said.  There are other English translations that use the phrase "born from above" instead of "born again."  I do think that the observant evangelical Christians, who very often use the Jamesean English translation of 1609, do associate a real meaning with the phrase.

Or do you mean that it hasn't any meaning for The Donald?  That I can agree with.

My mother grew up in a Born Again tradition in the 50s and 60s.  What is referred to as "Born Again" today is unrecognizable to her.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2016, 12:56:14 PM »

I see.  So it's rather like the word "liberal."  Means whatever you want it to at the moment.

Exactly.  Like Joel Olsteen.  If he now represents what is "born again," the phrase has lost all meaning.

When it meant Billy Graham and tent revivals and the Four Spiritual Laws, then sure, it meant something.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2016, 02:29:36 PM »

The guy who started all this (James Dobson) is now walking it back. Apparently he was basing it on info he 'heard' and not even from the Donald himself...

Dobson should never have gotten into politics.
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