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« on: March 06, 2014, 01:31:02 PM »

Not a formal announcement but still notable.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 01:37:31 PM »

Run and independent general election campaign against Hillary please!

Totally support this suggestion, albeit for different reasons, I'm sure. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 01:42:22 PM »

I hope he runs as a Democrat and pushes Hillary to the left. That'd be neat. Pulling a Nader? Not so much.

Not sure if Hillary can be "pushed to the left." I think running as a Democrat would undermine literally everything he stands for, as well.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 12:49:16 AM »

ITT: people who don't want substantive change writing off an actual progressive

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If the Democrats nominate Hillary, they deserve to lose.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 10:30:26 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.
Evidently the democratic party hasn't learned the consequences of nominating weak candidates that make people want to vote third party

Please. Hillary is a much stronger candidate than True Leftist hero candidates like Schweitzer or Sanders who would lose in a landslide. I'm sure she'll be fine without the <1% egotistical True Leftist demographic, most of which will end up pulling the lever for her in the end just like they did for Obama in 2012.

Also, I highly doubt Sanders will run third party. Unlike the suicidal True Leftists on Atlas and the vain egotists like Nader, he understands the importance of compromise and stopping Republicans.



I don't understand this line of thinking that says Schweitzer and/or Sanders would lose in landslides, even as the Democratic candidates. These are guys who win regularly in rural states and who win large numbers of Republican voters on a regular basis, something that a Hillary Clinton or Andrew Cuomo is functionally incapable of doing. Sanders has a C rating with the NRA, for chrissake.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 10:46:35 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.
Evidently the democratic party hasn't learned the consequences of nominating weak candidates that make people want to vote third party

Please. Hillary is a much stronger candidate than True Leftist hero candidates like Schweitzer or Sanders who would lose in a landslide. I'm sure she'll be fine without the <1% egotistical True Leftist demographic, most of which will end up pulling the lever for her in the end just like they did for Obama in 2012.

Also, I highly doubt Sanders will run third party. Unlike the suicidal True Leftists on Atlas and the vain egotists like Nader, he understands the importance of compromise and stopping Republicans.



I don't understand this line of thinking that says Schweitzer and/or Sanders would lose in landslides, even as the Democratic candidates. These are guys who win regularly in rural states and who win large numbers of Republican voters on a regular basis, something that a Hillary Clinton or Andrew Cuomo is functionally incapable of doing. Sanders has a C rating with the NRA, for chrissake.

Schweitzer trails Cruz in his own home state. Gubernatorial elections are an entirely different beast, they're much less partisan.

As for Sanders, it's Vermont. It's no surprise he does well there since even the conservatives there tend to be somewhat reasonable. But does he honestly think some redneck from Oklahoma is going to listen to anything a self described socialist has to say about the Tea Party or Koch brothers?

Also, Hillary won many Republican votes in her 2006 Senate race. But that obviously wouldn't translate nationally, just like for Schweitzer and Sanders.

Yeah, I'm inclined to take all polling before the General Election as suspect, because outside of Internet politics nerds, who on Earth knows who Schweitzer and/or Cruz are outside of their respective states?

Your writing off of Oklahoma shows precisely why a Democrat can't win there: because they do exactly the same thing. Sanders on the other hand has the advantage of being an independent, and thus not closely tied with the party, and not being focused on identity politics/muh marriage/abortion, so he has definitely a better shot at winning there than literally any Democrat does by that simple fact. Rednecks used to vote for left-wingers. There's no reason why they can't again. But they'll never vote for people like Hillary Clinton, who view them as suspect by nature of what part of the country they come from/their class background.

Schweitzer and Sanders would do far better with working class white men than Hillary Clinton could ever hope to do.
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