Opinion of the permabanned posters: Haley/Ryan

[Meclazine for Israel]

"Australians, Racist Immigration Policies, Muslims and Jews, Medieval Sorcery."

This conversation.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Australian points-based system isn't necessary in this country, but to call it automatically racist is rather silly. (You'd have more solid ground if you called it classist)
Australia isn't an anti-immigration country, lol.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Of course Australian immigration policy is racist (at least in practice), OSR. You're not going to make left-of-center posters any more sympathetic to an Australian-inspired approach to...anything to do with race relations, really, by going around bleating "points-based system, points-based system" like you're a medieval sorcerer going "SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS".

I've repeatedly said that Post removed by moderator.

I love you, man.

Racist is a pretty broad word with a charged character. But let's not pretend that asylum seekers are to be equated with all immigrants. Australia has some of the highest foreign-born % of any country on the planet, I have great doubts its immigration policy considered in a whole could ever be reasonably regarded as racist (what is this? 1924?). That just sounds like ludicrous invective. There's more to immigration policy than how you treat asylum seekers and in fact terminology like "pro-immigration" obfuscate and overly ideologicalize things, when it's more important looking at 1) the needs of the existing population, 2) the ability of infrastructure and other things to keep up with population growth, and 3) the long-term feasibility, and benefits, of policies in the long run and what you could guess assuming a median scenario.

[Fuzzy Bear]

OSR, you might find your complaints about red av toxicity gaining a lot more sympathy if you weren't bringing them up almost exclusively while railing against the bans of reactionaries who espouse loathsome bigotries that you insist don't exist because you didn't see them.

Get real.

In the current protests, in the events in Gaza, the Palestinians are the ones in the wrong.  They have no virtue and no merit in their arguments.  They want to use civilians as human shields, lob rockets at Israeli civilians.  They not only wish for Israel to not exist, they wish to drive every Jew out of "Palestine".  They have wanted this, and worked for this, ever since the Grand Mufti collaborated with Hitler in WWII.  

Haley/Ryan is Jewish in a country where Jew Hatred on the Left (which is tolerated here when it can't be blamed on the Right) runs rampant.  The complete denial of what the pro-Palestinian protesters are actually doing is shameful.  But the permabanning of Haley/Ryan is more that just bias; it is the Mod Team condoning the actions of Pro-Palestinian protesters and embracing the Palestinian cause.

OSR is a stand-up guy.  Red Avatars have loads of advocates here; Haley/Ryan deserves more than one.  And I consider his previous 6 month ban (to be kind) excessive.  

[Ferguson97]

In the current protests, in the events in Gaza, the Palestinians are the ones in the wrong.  They have no virtue and no merit in their arguments.  They want to use civilians as human shields, lob rockets at Israeli civilians.  They not only wish for Israel to not exist, they wish to drive every Jew out of "Palestine".  They have wanted this, and worked for this, ever since the Grand Mufti collaborated with Hitler in WWII. 

The children being bombed are in the wrong?

[Fuzzy Bear]

In the current protests, in the events in Gaza, the Palestinians are the ones in the wrong.  They have no virtue and no merit in their arguments.  They want to use civilians as human shields, lob rockets at Israeli civilians.  They not only wish for Israel to not exist, they wish to drive every Jew out of "Palestine".  They have wanted this, and worked for this, ever since the Grand Mufti collaborated with Hitler in WWII. 

The children being bombed are in the wrong?

The children being held hostage by Hamas are not in the wrong.

The children killed by Hamas rocket attacks in Israel are not in the wrong.

The children killed by Israel's response to the rocket attacks lies squarely with Hamas.  Hamas is the group that uses these children as human shields.  They are collateral damage caused by Hamas's unprovoked and unjustified attach on Israel on October 7.  No children would be killed if Hamas surrendered.  The same cannot be true if Israel surrendered.

[Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi]

But the permabanning of Haley/Ryan is more that just bias; it is the Mod Team condoning the actions of Pro-Palestinian protesters and embracing the Palestinian cause.

No idea what this comment even means. Are you implying Haley/Ryan was banned because he's Jewish and supports Israel?

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Fuzzy, if we're gonna hold entire groups of people to the standard that they don't deserve anything regarding statehood because of collaboration with Hitler during the war, then why don't you apply that to all those who collaborated with the Nazis? Quisling in Norway, Pavelic in Croatia, Antonescu in Romania, Tiso in Slovakia, Bandera in Ukraine, and so on, and so forth.

And frankly, why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that it was the BRITISH who appointed al-Husseini as the Grant Mufti of Quds, which btw, was also a position created by them. You seem to be under the impression that he was elected into that position.

[quesaisje]

The chauvinism over avatars is tedious. It's getting to the point that I wish that moderators would police against it aggressively, because the result is rarely anything other than nastiness and inanity.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

OSR, you might find your complaints about red av toxicity gaining a lot more sympathy if you weren't bringing them up almost exclusively while railing against the bans of reactionaries who espouse loathsome bigotries that you insist don't exist because you didn't see them.

Get real.

In the current protests, in the events in Gaza, the Palestinians are the ones in the wrong.  They have no virtue and no merit in their arguments.  They want to use civilians as human shields, lob rockets at Israeli civilians.  They not only wish for Israel to not exist, they wish to drive every Jew out of "Palestine".  They have wanted this, and worked for this, ever since the Grand Mufti collaborated with Hitler in WWII.  

Haley/Ryan is Jewish in a country where Jew Hatred on the Left (which is tolerated here when it can't be blamed on the Right) runs rampant.  The complete denial of what the pro-Palestinian protesters are actually doing is shameful.  But the permabanning of Haley/Ryan is more that just bias; it is the Mod Team condoning the actions of Pro-Palestinian protesters and embracing the Palestinian cause.

OSR is a stand-up guy.  Red Avatars have loads of advocates here; Haley/Ryan deserves more than one.  And I consider his previous 6 month ban (to be kind) excessive.  

um... good day to you too?

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fuzzy, if we're gonna hold entire groups of people to the standard that they don't deserve anything regarding statehood because of collaboration with Hitler during the war, then why don't you apply that to all those who collaborated with the Nazis? Quisling in Norway, Pavelic in Croatia, Antonescu in Romania, Tiso in Slovakia, Bandera in Ukraine, and so on, and so forth.

And frankly, why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that it was the BRITISH who appointed al-Husseini as the Grant Mufti of Quds, which btw, was also a position created by them. You seem to be under the impression that he was elected into that position.

Well, yes, they WERE war criminals.  Father Tiso was executed.  Vidkun Quisling was executed.  Antonescu was executed.  Pavelic survived multiple assassination attempts.  Bandera was used as an informer, but he did not have a happy end.

Amin al-Husseni escaped punishment and continued to persecute Jews and encourage the persecution of Jews until the end of his life.  Unlike the other individuals you mention, his movement of anti-Jewish Palestinian Arab Nationalism was birthed by the Mufti and is the genesis for the Palestinian Arab Nationalist Movements that continue to this day and, in fact, are Jihadic and condone genocide toward Jews.  One reason the Palestinians in America spread the "Genocide Joe" narrative is to deflect from public intention the fact that "From the River to the Sea" is a statement of Ethnic Cleansing itself. 

[Badger]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive .

It’s actually lying to call him an anti semite

Funny that he keeps posting anti-semitic and racist things then. Must be a coincidence.

[Badger]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive

Stop simping for the racists who use your vote but would happily deport you based on the color of your skin and religion alone. It’s very naïve.

Dude was literally to the left of me on immigration. He literally posted his immigration policy would be to let corporations pick whomever they wanted to hire .

The only exception he stated was from a particular region of the world and seeing how immigrants from the region have acted since 10/7 he was 100% correct about that . It’s not bigoted to think that ,and liberals believing we should allow immigrants who hate our country our our Allies is actually the far bigger problem.


Anyway his ban is proof this forum has no interest in allowing any aggressive conservatives to post here . There is absolutely no justification whatsoever in banning H/R

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

[Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi]

Is this still going???

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Is this still going???