Would Hillary have won if she'd embraced TPP and the benefits of free trade?

[7,052,770]

I mean, it's not like anyone took her seriously on the protectionism front. She could have highlighted how free trade leads to lower prices for everyone and proposed new government programs to help out the people whose jobs are lost.

[Higgs]

Hell no Lmao.

[Devout Centrist]

No.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

I mean, it's not like anyone took her seriously on the protectionism front. She could have highlighted how free trade leads to lower prices for everyone and proposed new government programs to help out the people whose jobs are lost.

Probably, if she did it 20 years ago. Now, when so many people have already got so much troubles because of globalism, it is sort of toooooo late.

[bagelman]

Nope, it'd be a stronger Trumpwave, but maybe big enough for us to see it coming

[Ljube]

Hell no Lmao.

[Bigby]

She may have lost even more voters, actually. Pretending to suddenly oppose the TPP was her best bet.

[rafta_rafta]

She would haven't even gotten the nomination

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

That must be what Ohio was pining for, a strong supporter of NAFTA and TPP.


/snark

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Hell no Lmao.

[Cashew]

I mean, it's not like anyone took her seriously on the protectionism front. She could have highlighted how free trade leads to lower prices for everyone and proposed new government programs to help out the people whose jobs are lost.

They do not want government programs. What they want is to preserve their dignified, hands on jobs as well as the way of life that goes along with it. Telling them to go work at fast food, get welfare, or relocate, will do nothing to soothe the (quite understandable) smoldering resentment at having their dignity stripped from them.

[Pyro]

This was the most blatantly pro-protectionist election in decades.

[Deblano]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooope

Protectionism is what the Cool Kidz are into nowadays.

[Hammy]

She would've probably lost Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Virginia as well had she done so.

[fhtagn]

She would have done so much worse.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Of course she wouldn't have, but a fundamental problem with her as a candidate was that her own sensibilities and attitudes on the economy and trade were so blatantly obviously inimical to the positions that the course of the primaries ended up requiring her to take. Hillary pretending to be a free trade skeptic did do better than she would have done otherwise, but it wasn't enough to make up for the fact that she just wasn't, in her heart of hearts, where the voters she needed were on this issue. Combine that with her and her surrogates regularly implying and at a few points outright stating that if you didn't fully understand or agree with her sociocultural policy platform you were a horrible person whose vote she didn't need or want anyway, and you have Iowa voting to the right of Texas for the first time since 1976.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Of course she wouldn't have, but a fundamental problem with her as a candidate was that her own sensibilities and attitudes on the economy and trade were so blatantly obviously inimical to the positions that the course of the primaries ended up requiring her to take. Hillary pretending to be a free trade skeptic did do better than she would have done otherwise, but it wasn't enough to make up for the fact that she just wasn't, in her heart of hearts, where the voters she needed were on this issue. Combine that with her and her surrogates regularly implying and at a few points outright stating that if you didn't fully understand or agree with her sociocultural policy platform you were a horrible person whose vote she didn't need or want anyway, and you have Iowa voting to the right of Texas for the first time since 1976.

Think about what you wrote for a second.  Because Texas is clearly run by rabid SJWs from top to bottom.

That isn't what I meant and I don't think it follows from what I wrote, partially since 'rabid SJW' isn't really a fair or accurate description of Hillary's social policies or the manner in which she was presenting them, and partially since my point was about why the states that swung right swung right rather than why the states that swung left swung left.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Are you on drugs?

[ApatheticAustrian]

since NO ONE else made THAT case and everyone thought she was full of it anyway, maybe it would have helped a little.....but i am doubtful.

the KGB nailed her good.

[Bismarck]

I might have voted for her is she came out strongly in support of free trade.