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« on: May 18, 2008, 12:08:39 AM »
New Poll: Minnesota President by Star Tribune/ISG on 2008-05-15

Summary: D: 49%, R: 40%, U: 11%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details


Obama: 51%
McCain: 38%
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 12:09:39 AM »
I'm only worried about the Senate race, especially if Ventura decides to run.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 12:10:11 AM »
Quote from: TheresNoMoney on May 18, 2008, 12:09:39 AM
I'm only worried about the Senate race, especially if Ventura decides to run.

Don't worry. Ventura is beyond irrelevant at this point.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 12:12:14 AM »

What are your thoughts on the Senate race at this point? I haven't been following closely, but I thought I read that Franken is in some trouble for not paying payroll taxes a few years ago?
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 12:12:22 AM »
Overestimated Kerry big time in 2004, but Star Tribune is just an awful poll in general.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 12:22:30 AM »
Quote from: Alcon on May 18, 2008, 12:12:22 AM
Overestimated Kerry big time in 2004, but Star Tribune is just an awful poll in general.

There are now 2 consecutive polls that have Obama up by double digits, something we didnīt have in 2004. I think it will be Obama by 5-7% ...
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 12:23:42 AM »
Quote from: TheresNoMoney on May 18, 2008, 12:12:14 AM

What are your thoughts on the Senate race at this point? I haven't been following closely, but I thought I read that Franken is in some trouble for not paying payroll taxes a few years ago?

Yeah, it's a bad news cycle for him. But once that passes, things should change, especially once the focus is just on hammering Coleman. Having the GOP convention here might actually be a good thing since it makes it too difficult for him to distance himself from the national GOP.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 12:23:59 AM »
Obama will outperform Kerry by a sizable margin.  The senate race will be a nail biter.  I'd say "leans Coleman" right now, but things can (and will) change.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 12:26:39 AM »
Not surprising.  Obama will easily win MN.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 12:33:06 AM »
If Reagan can't win Minnesota, McCain sure as hell won't.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 12:48:04 AM »
Whenever I run out of toilet paper in my household, Star Tribune polls make a good substitute.
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2008, 12:57:45 AM »
One of the worst pollsters of all time.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 01:07:55 PM »
Quote from: Sam Spade on May 18, 2008, 12:48:04 AM
Whenever I run out of toilet paper in my household, Star Tribune polls make a good substitute.

Oh, come on... if you were responsible, you'd plan ahead and never run out of toilet paper.  I mean, sure, you wouldn't be able to make this cute little joke, but you'd probably end up with ink smudged all over your ass.. and it'd be Strib poll ink at that!
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2008, 09:06:45 PM »
Why is Minnesota listed as a swing state?
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2008, 09:13:44 PM »
Minnesota isn't up for grabs.  We're all socialist commie pinko appeasers who want to bring down America for the cause of terroristic-socialism.

Even comrade Pawlenty is in on it.  It's how we're going to subvert a McCain presidency and turn America into an Al-Queda training camp.
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2008, 09:16:19 PM »
Quote from: ChrisFromNJ on May 18, 2008, 09:06:45 PM
Why is Minnesota listed as a swing state?

Because it was within 2% and 4% in the past 2 elections. It won't be a swing state with Obama on the ballot.
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2008, 09:22:18 PM »
Obama will win Minn by a decent margin no doubt in my mind.

However, the Star Tribune is a hack poll and always has been.  It had Mondale up over Coleman by 8 or so in 2002.  Coleman won by 3.5 I think.  it had Kerry up in 2004 by ridiculous margins.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2008, 01:14:17 PM »
Quote from: agcatter on May 18, 2008, 09:22:18 PM
Obama will win Minn by a decent margin no doubt in my mind.

However, the Star Tribune is a hack poll and always has been.  It had Mondale up over Coleman by 8 or so in 2002.  Coleman won by 3.5 I think.  it had Kerry up in 2004 by ridiculous margins.


It also had Amy Klobuchar up over Mark Kennedy by 20 points and everyone OMG LOLZ HACK POLL RED STAR COMMIE TRIBUNE!!#$!!!

And then she won by 20 points.

I think they have revamped their methodology and it has been a bit more accurate (though Obama will not beat McCain by 13 points... perhaps 6 or 7)
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2008, 03:16:32 PM »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on May 19, 2008, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: agcatter on May 18, 2008, 09:22:18 PM
Obama will win Minn by a decent margin no doubt in my mind.

However, the Star Tribune is a hack poll and always has been.  It had Mondale up over Coleman by 8 or so in 2002.  Coleman won by 3.5 I think.  it had Kerry up in 2004 by ridiculous margins.


It also had Amy Klobuchar up over Mark Kennedy by 20 points and everyone OMG LOLZ HACK POLL RED STAR COMMIE TRIBUNE!!#$!!!

And then she won by 20 points.

I think they have revamped their methodology and it has been a bit more accurate (though Obama will not beat McCain by 13 points... perhaps 6 or 7)

Even a broken clock, etc...
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