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« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2015, 05:41:16 PM »
I'm happy to support the bill and look forward to Senator Polnut's amendment.

That being said, the only part of this bill that has any teeth whatsoever is section 2. So I wonder if section 1 is even worth including. Could it be construed by some parties in the region as patronizing rhetoric?
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« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2015, 08:14:41 PM »
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« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2015, 10:08:44 PM »
I support the amendment. The removed line was poorly written and far too ambiguous to decipher.

The section about having a "third nation" to provide leadership to the process would also be an interesting thing for the SoEA and G.M. to pursue.
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« Reply #103 on: March 07, 2015, 07:03:16 AM »
I support as well Polnut's amendment. This is a much less risky way to improve Kurdish' conditions than the former version. We cannot risk to worsen our current diplomatic relations with Turkey because of ISIS.
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« Reply #104 on: March 07, 2015, 01:36:08 PM »
I support this amendment as well, yet I see no real change for Turkey in here if we still include section 3, which precisely is what got Turkey so enraged. I think we should strike that clause as well, for the sake of keeping Turkey as our allies in the struggle against the Islamic State.
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« Reply #105 on: March 08, 2015, 08:51:27 PM »
Senators have 36 hours to object to the proposed amendment.
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« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2015, 12:53:03 PM »
Senator Polnut's amendment has been adopted.
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« Reply #107 on: March 14, 2015, 12:00:06 PM »
It appears the debates have ended. So, I motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #108 on: March 14, 2015, 12:01:11 PM »
Senators, Windjammer has motioned for a final vote. You have 24 hour to object.
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« Reply #109 on: March 14, 2015, 12:29:57 PM »
I'm ok with a final vote.
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« Reply #110 on: March 14, 2015, 04:22:39 PM »
Sorry, but please wait here a second.

The current version is this, right:

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Aren't the problems with Turkey still in this bill then, because I could imagine Turkey is not that content with clause 3 of this bill...
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« Reply #111 on: March 14, 2015, 07:31:00 PM »
I think section 5 should nullify any potential objection Turkey has to section 3. There is no danger of the negotiations leading to us demanding a chunk of turkey for Kurdistan or anything like that.
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« Reply #112 on: March 15, 2015, 06:29:27 AM »
Okay, thank you.

Well then, I'm all on board.
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« Reply #113 on: March 15, 2015, 07:22:37 AM »
Shall I consider that as an objection for a final vote Cranberry???
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« Reply #114 on: March 15, 2015, 10:39:48 AM »
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Shall I consider that as an objection for a final vote Cranberry???

No, my concerns have been answered, so I see no reason to object (anymore).
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« Reply #115 on: March 15, 2015, 08:11:15 PM »
Let's go then Smiley
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« Reply #116 on: March 15, 2015, 08:18:38 PM »
A final vote is now open. Please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain.
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« Reply #117 on: March 15, 2015, 08:41:11 PM »
I continue to believe this does not go far enough in advocating for the Kurdish people's right to self-determination.

Nay.
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« Reply #118 on: March 15, 2015, 09:03:16 PM »
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
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« Reply #119 on: March 16, 2015, 06:01:32 AM »
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I continue to believe this does not go far enough in advocating for the Kurdish people's right to self-determination.

Nay.

OK, let's do nothing then and let then face ISIS and IRI alone Roll Eyes
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« Reply #120 on: March 16, 2015, 06:17:54 AM »
Aye.

I would like to do more for the Kurds, but we simply cannot do this: ISIS,...
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« Reply #121 on: March 16, 2015, 08:36:07 AM »
Aye
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« Reply #122 on: March 16, 2015, 08:38:03 AM »
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« Reply #123 on: March 16, 2015, 12:17:33 PM »
AYE

I share some sentiments here that it would certainly have been preferable to do more for the Kurdish cause, yet I just don't think there is more possible given the current geo-political situation in the region... There's a second time for everything, I'd say
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« Reply #124 on: March 16, 2015, 01:57:50 PM »
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