Trump immigration megathread

[Devout Centrist]

Immigration reform requires 60 votes in the Senate.

Dems should go pathway to citizenship or bust.

[Devout Centrist]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/us/politics/trump-address-congress.html

[Devout Centrist]

Criminal aliens of course will still be deported, hopefully at Obama like levels.

good start, just one question:

dreamers = illegal aliens?

Technically. Part of my "deal" (if anyone would listen) is that in return for permanent residency, you lose your chance to aspire for full citizenship. Dreamers would be dealt with like any other illegal who applies for the residency status.

But this has the potential to create a huge underclass.

Plus it's a ticking time bomb for nationalists once a Democrat gets the Presidency.

[Devout Centrist]

Called it months ago. They recognize being anti-minority is going to backfire if Latinos turn out and continue voting Democratic. So ergo this.

I doubt the compromise will ever happen (Trump's base would revolt) but can you imagine the millions of new Democrats if a future Democratic President legalized them all?

This is hilarious to watch and I can only imagine Trump's base going apoplectic.

That really depends if he gets them (illegal arrivals) out of the country before the next election.

If they are still in the country, what you are saying is a strong point.

They're not gonna leave. They're dominant in a lot of healthcare and hospitality and low level menial and food picking jobs.

Most of those jobs can and will be replaced by robots over the next few years. Hence the importance of no amnesty. Once there are no longer the jobs for them in the US illegal and insecure status will increase motivation to self deport. Will also subtract substantially to the pull factor as well a subtracting one of the main motives for Americans to allow these people to stay in the US.

Very wishful thinking. Plus you could use this rationale to justify killing old people.

[Devout Centrist]

Immigration reform requires 60 votes in the Senate.

Dems should go pathway to citizenship or bust.

Then he will seek vengeance and deport them all. They should take the deal.

That would be very risky and cost him a huge amount of political capital. So no, the Democrats have little to no risk here.

[Devout Centrist]

If true, maybe he will be a modern John Tyler.