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« on: April 23, 2013, 04:37:30 PM »



I would really like to hear from guys from Florida especially.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 04:49:29 PM »

In theory I'd be a strong supporter of this but it depends. How does this affect Florida, it's development, etc. If it would destroy infastructure or prevent enough development going forward it would need to be curtailed. Florida farmers and ranchers have pretty well and good damaged Lake Okeechobee which does need to be reversed.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 05:41:05 PM »

In theory I'd be a strong supporter of this but it depends. How does this affect Florida, it's development, etc. If it would destroy infastructure or prevent enough development going forward it would need to be curtailed. Florida farmers and ranchers have pretty well and good damaged Lake Okeechobee which does need to be reversed.

Protecting wilderness lands (especially wetlands) is not just a matter of preserving wildlife, but also managing water issues for human use as well- in particular, keeping a certain amount of land undeveloped is important to preserve groundwater sources, and to act as flood control.  And these are both problems that Florida has, more than you'd think.

If it does "prevent enough development going forward", maybe that's a sign that the land cannot actually support that sort of development going forward, and we need to change course.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 05:48:08 PM »

Protecting wilderness lands (especially wetlands) is not just a matter of preserving wildlife, but also managing water issues for human use as well

Yes this is true, in the UK we are seeing more and more flooding, a possible reason for this is that we have lost a lot of our old hedgerows which absorbed a lot of excess water. I also heard that if the UK planted trees on our uplands they would help with flood control.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 07:14:26 PM »

I canoed up the Peace River on Friday. Never again! After that trip, I sat bulldoze the Everglades and replace it with gated, 55+ communities for all I care Tongue.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 07:37:06 PM »

If you mean applying this now- no... it would impede too much already standing
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 08:56:00 PM »

I'd be happy to support it in exchange for a going ahead with the Cross Florida Barge Canal, a victim of NIMBY environmentalism in the 1970s.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 01:31:52 PM »

Yes, of course. Can't clean up the Glades without starting with the Kissimmee.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 01:40:46 PM »

Anytime a new regulation or restriction comes up, always ask:
1. How much will this cost?
2. How many jobs will it kill?
3. What is the potential benefit compared to the downsides?

I only support regulations if the benefits of 3 outweigh all the costs. 

My guess is that this will do too much harm to the economy, but  I also support keeping the environment protected.  As such, I don't know how I'd stand on this....
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 11:30:14 PM »

Anytime a new regulation or restriction comes up, always ask:
1. How much will this cost?
2. How many jobs will it kill?
3. What is the potential benefit compared to the downsides?

I only support regulations if the benefits of 3 outweigh all the costs.  

My guess is that this will do too much harm to the economy, but  I also support keeping the environment protected.  As such, I don't know how I'd stand on this....

You should also be asking, "how much will not doing this cost"?  Oftentimes, proposals like this might involve a certain amount of upfront cost (which is all that some people will think about), but pay dividends down the line by reducing costs for future generations (or, at least, preventing them from becoming a huge burden).  In the specific case of preserving natural lands from development in Florida, it is cheaper if you take a sufficiently long view, because preserving this land (and its natural capacity to filter water for human use) could save Florida from plunking down billions upon billions on expensive, energy-intensive desalinization plants.
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 01:43:05 AM »

I like the concept, but I have no way of knowing the nature of the area it covers, or what exactly it means for an area to be included in the "Florida Wildlife Corridor Opportunity Area."
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