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« on: April 15, 2012, 02:09:27 PM »

After reading the article it doesn't seem an attempt to take down Christianity so much as an attempt to make money off of its more gullible adherents by selling them books and getting royalties from Discovery Channel specials. Nope, folks like these don't want to take down Christianity - to do so wouldn't be profitable for them.

What's ironic is that that Chrisitans who protest against this sort of junk archaeology seem not to be too bothered by junk archaeology by Christian apologists out to 'prove' the historiocity of biblical events.
That's actually what Simcha Jacobovici does most of the time.

Really, neither Jacobovici or Tabor are trying to take down Christianity.  Tabor believes the earliest understanding of resurrection didn't preclude physical remnants. While I don't find it persuasive, he makes his case here.

In College took a class on the Apocalypse, and Tabor came one time to speak as a guest lecturer about how the FBI's ignorance of the Book of Revelations and the Branch Davidians theology played a role in the tragedy at Waco.  He seemed like a really bright fellow. Too bad he's succumbed to the sensationalism recently ubiquitous in NT studies.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 11:07:05 PM »

Really, neither Jacobovici or Tabor are trying to take down Christianity.  Tabor believes the earliest understanding of resurrection didn't preclude physical remnants.

Can you rephrase that - is Tabor arguing that the earliest Christian understanding included a physical resurrection (no body left in the tomb), or is he arguing that they thought Jesus' resurrection left behind his body (thus his bones are buried somewhere)?

the latter.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 04:12:13 PM »

Jmfsct, the argument Tabor was making was that there was a bodily resurrection, but that it was not a reanimation of his corpse.  Now, I disagree with him on the empty tomb bit in terms of fact, because it is clear from the gospels that there was an empty tomb that was evidence for the resurrection.  But it's not clear that the resurrection (being not the same as Lazarus' resuscitation) would have required an empty tomb.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 08:49:34 PM »

Jmfsct, the argument Tabor was making was that there was a bodily resurrection, but that it was not a reanimation of his corpse.

first off, why would I want to parse the reasoning of someone who has been proven to a forger of evidence?!  The man is simply a liar.  He is not intellectually honest.

second, a bodily resurrection without a reanimated body seems totally contradictory, unless he is saying his body was duplicated during resurrection.  But, as you stated, the gospels declare an empty tomb, so the point is moot.
I bring it up because it's not something you can just dismiss ad hominem. I think it brings up an interesting point about the nature of resurrection.  For instance, does the general resurrection involve the actual physical materials of all the people who lived and died and may have decomposed?
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