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Question: Would a successful Brexit help Donald Trump?
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 23, 2016, 10:45:36 AM »

Would the British departure from the European Union increase nationalist/nativist sentiment in the United States, helping Donald Trump?
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 11:10:43 AM »

Frankly, the average undecided American voter doesn't care about things that don't directly affect their country. Unless the outcome of the Brexit vote has a significant impact on the global economy, most Americans won't think much of it.

British membership in the EU provides the easiest gateway for American corporations to enter European markets, thanks to language and cultural ties between the US and UK.  It would certainly have a negative impact on us.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 12:33:53 PM »

Surprised the "Remain" side hasn't made a big point of this. "Leaving = Trump wins" would be a convincing argument to lots of people on the fence.

That would be fearmongering at its worst, and voters would not only see right through it, but probably resent it. 
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 12:53:23 PM »

Surprised the "Remain" side hasn't made a big point of this. "Leaving = Trump wins" would be a convincing argument to lots of people on the fence.

That would be fearmongering at its worst, and voters would not only see right through it, but probably resent it. 

Yes, because fearmongering in politics never works. See: 2004 US Presidential Election

UK != US.  Cameron almost lost Scotland because he resorted to fearmongering.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 03:12:01 PM »

Why would it help Trump unless it managed to so completely collapse the world economy that any and all anti-establishment figure would win? Wouldn't a Brexit also help to fearmonger against evil nationalist forces and bring Sanders supporters into the fold?

I think a Brexit would embolden nationalist sentiment.  Trump's tweet on a successful Brexit vote would look something like this:

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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 07:17:57 AM »

I think a Brexit would embolden nationalist sentiment.  Trump's tweet on a successful Brexit vote would look something like this:

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I will now accept my accolades.

Well, kind of.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746289394231828480

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746289768707698688
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 01:00:47 PM »

I think a Brexit would embolden nationalist sentiment.  Trump's tweet on a successful Brexit vote would look something like this:

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I will now accept my accolades.

Well, kind of.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746289394231828480

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746289768707698688

I will now accept my accolades.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 01:24:05 PM »

Hopefully Texas doesn't get any ideas from this. The road to victory for Republicans significantly decreases without Texas in the picture.
I disagree on that being a bad thing...
I disagree with you thinking that that would be a good thing.
Texas belongs in the US come hell or high water.

The nuclear option for Texas is not secession.  The nuclear option for Texas is gerrymandering the state into five guaranteed-Republican states (or one heavily Democratic state and four heavily Republican states), unilaterally dividing, and stacking the Senate with that many more Republicans.  They are authorized to do this under US law.
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
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Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 03:26:54 PM »

The idea that any U.S. state would secede is laughable. 

62% of Scotts consider themselves Scottish and not British.

How many Texans do you think consider themselves Texan but not American?  I can't imagine that number is even 1%.

Texans considered themselves American even when Texas was an independent republic.  They were an outpost waiting for inclusion into the homeland, to protect their God-given rights to life, liberty, and the freedom to own other human beings.
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