Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[Hatman 🍁]

John Tory isn't going to do anything. He got what he wanted; nominations for mayor still close today, but for every other race, they'll be extended. So any would-be challenger for mayor who doesn't want to run against a colleague in any of these new mega-wards will not be able to do so.

Hopefully someone challenges this in the court. 25 seats is not effective representation (this has already been established in court, whether you agree with it or not).

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Wouldn't 25 seats literally mean a city council member has a larger average constituency than an MPP does? That sounds absurd.

Hmm, that is technically true. We have some ridings covering just 20k people up north, brining the average down.

Bizarrely this wouldn't be as bad as some cities in western Canada that have more provincial ridings than wards.

[Hatman 🍁]

The NDP is still polling 15-20%, so it's just a reversion to the mean really. We're not in Audrey McLaughlin territory, and not even Alexa McDonough territory either.

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The NDP is still polling 15-20%, so it's just a reversion to the mean really. We're not in Audrey McLaughlin territory, and not even Alexa McDonough territory either.

Hell, they're in Jack Layton (04-10) territory, which wasn't exactly considered terrible at the time.

The pundit class has short memories.

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Illegal border crossing seems a good issue for Scheer. Angus Reid poll shows he is more trusted than Trudeau on this.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/angus-reid-border-poll-1.4771961

The word is irregular.

[Hatman 🍁]

If Maxime Bernier were removed from the Conservative caucus how likely would he be to be reelected as an independent in Beauce?

Worked for his father.

Not sure if it would for Maxime though. The farmers in the riding hate him.

[Hatman 🍁]

People need to stop speculating about early elections. They never come true. Trudeau is not that stupid; he knows he would lose if he went against the fixed election date.

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Bernier has a lot "going for" him, but just as much (if not more) "going against" him too.

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Is it brave or foolhardy for a Quebec based politician to have ending supply management as one of his signature issues?

Foolhardy

Bernier probably lost the leadership race due to it. Andrew Scheer won a lot of rural Quebec seats thanks to pissed off dairy farmers that should have been easy wins for Maxime.

probably?

[Hatman 🍁]

Any clue unto what this party might be named? I don't know why I'm so interested in that rather small detail, but I am.

No idea, but I bet it will be something vague and boring.

[Hatman 🍁]

Any clue unto what this party might be named? I don't know why I'm so interested in that rather small detail, but I am.

No idea, but I bet it will be something vague and boring.

Strong words coming from an NDP supporter 

Hey, when did I ever say I liked the name? At least it beats "New Party".

[Hatman 🍁]

Jagmeet's leadership hasn't been that good so far, I'm afraid, but this is Canadian politics; he has plenty of time to redeem himself.

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Please don't quote reply that troll. I have him on ignore, and I don't wish to see his trolling.

[Hatman 🍁]

And its People's Party

Will the party aim to run candidates outside of Quebec or is this just a Quebec only party?

All 338 ridings.

[Hatman 🍁]

And its People's Party

Will the party aim to run candidates outside of Quebec or is this just a Quebec only party?

All 338 ridings.

oof that's going to make it tough for the Conservatives to win. I could even see them taking a net loss in seats in 2015. I wonder though what % Peoples will take I imagine 8-10% (I don't think their is a huge market for a libertarian style party in Canada but will see.)

Also outside of Beauce what do you think the most likley seat Peoples would win?

According to Craig Oliver (about the only liberal national media commentator around) Maxime Bernier's party could do very well in and around Quebec City: right wing populist but pro free trade.

Ralliement créditiste 2.0 ?

[Hatman 🍁]

I know. I meant more in terms of what the electoral map could look like, based on Craig Oliver's comments. That's a big *if* though; assuming Quebec conservatives align more with Bernier's politics. The leadership election proved that the Tory base in Quebec is not that libertarian, but perhaps the voters are?

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Just adding to the long list of notable athletes/minor celebrities running as sacrificial lambs for the Liberal Party. Remember when Ross Rebagliati ran?

[ETA: Rebagliati didn't actually run apparently, he dropped out. Still though, wanting to run against Stockwell Day was a bit of an uphill battle]

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In addition to the 5 Quebecers regularly mentioned in French media, Cullen, Rankin and Masse are mulling retirement.

https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1055253519320604672

I was hoping Yvan Baker's political career would be dead. His private member's bill attempting to ban texting and crossing the street was ludicrous.

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So no second ballot, because Clarke dropped out? Makes sense, 49% is a guaranteed win.

Do you think Houston will take the party back to the right?