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cinyc
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« on: July 18, 2016, 10:15:20 PM »
« edited: July 18, 2016, 10:16:58 PM by cinyc »

This is rich, considering the capital of the old Mideast was just about as far away from Wisconsin as New York City.

For the record, I voted to put the capital in Pittsburgh, as it is fairly central.  The population center of the North is probably even a bit to the east of Pittsburgh, though.  Moving a capital once it has been created makes little sense.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 10:43:07 PM »

Right now I'm trying to work with Truman and the Committee and propose a referendum process that allows voters to nominate cities and vote on them in the referendum IRV-style.  I think this is an acceptable compromise we can look towards if we erase the relevant provision to the proposed Constitution.

This would be acceptable if there is also a provision to the Regions Bill of Rights that ensures equality between between the Northeast and Mideast.

Why is that even necessary?  The Bill of Rights already applies to all citizens, regardless of former region.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2016, 05:59:45 PM »

Please give this a rest.  The committee has spoken, and the people have spoken.  They want the capital to be in the region's largest city, New York.  That's the same thing some U.S. states have done, despite the city not being central - like Boston.  Besides, the capital of the old Mideast was in Maryland, despite not being central to its population.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2016, 09:43:49 PM »

Please give this a rest.  The committee has spoken, and the people have spoken.  They want the capital to be in the region's largest city, New York.  That's the same thing some U.S. states have done, despite the city not being central - like Boston.  Besides, the capital of the old Mideast was in Maryland, despite not being central to its population.

It wasn't a majority vote. Thus it should be contested via referendum between the two highest vote getting cities. NYC and Pittsburgh.

This isn't over. The citizens of the former Mideast deserve equity and respect in this decision. The coast is getting everything it wants in the merger and the western states of the north got nothing. How is that right? It's not. The Coastal parts need to make concessions so the citizens of the Mideastern states partitioned to the north feel like equal partners in the merger.

You don't need a majority of votes to win in IRV.  And the voters have spoken - just like the committee before them, they concluded New York City should be the capital.

I can tell you this - if it is put to the voters again, I, the person who first nominated and voted for Pittsburgh to be the capital, will change my vote to keep the capital in NYC.  Why?  Once the capital is established, it makes little sense to move it.  And I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.

Once again, the capital of the old Mideast was pretty much on the coast, too - in Maryland.  That the North has a capital on the coast is nothing new.
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