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« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2017, 03:00:36 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?
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« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2017, 03:02:02 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?
I believe just 1 
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« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2017, 03:02:36 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?
58 minutes till polls close, results should start an hour after that.
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« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2017, 03:02:39 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?
Polls close at 10 pm in the U.K. (5 eastern time)
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« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2017, 03:03:24 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?

Polls close in an hour and Sunderland South will probably declare close to 11 pm their time.
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« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2017, 03:05:01 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?

Polls close in an hour and Sunderland South will probably declare close to 11 pm their time.
Is sunderland south an important one or just a place with a late closing time
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« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2017, 03:06:21 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?

Polls close in an hour and Sunderland South will probably declare close to 11 pm their time.
Is sunderland south an important one or just a place with a late closing time

Same closing time, but they're quick at getting their results tabulated.
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« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2017, 03:07:11 PM »

How many hours left until results start rolling in?

Polls close in an hour and Sunderland South will probably declare close to 11 pm their time.
Is sunderland south an important one or just a place with a late closing time


It has the same closing time as all other seats, but is quick to report. It's a safe Labour seat I believe.
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« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2017, 03:09:13 PM »

Sunderland is a safe Labour area. But swing from LAB to CON or vice versa can be an important indicator of the night.
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« Reply #109 on: June 08, 2017, 03:10:59 PM »

For you guys who want to watch a results program, two links for you.
BBC (Legal link)
Sky News
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« Reply #110 on: June 08, 2017, 03:14:14 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour area when it voted heavily for brexit?
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« Reply #111 on: June 08, 2017, 03:19:59 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour Brexit area when it voted heavily for Labour brexit?

Rephrase it like this and you will get slightly less vitriol than the coal miner question.

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« Reply #112 on: June 08, 2017, 03:20:32 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour area when it voted heavily for brexit?

Because many Labour voters also voted for Brexit, together with many Torie and UKIP voters.

There are areas around here as well which voted 60-70% Hofer but 40-50% SPÖ in the 2004 and 2009 state elections.

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« Reply #113 on: June 08, 2017, 03:21:03 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour area when it voted heavily for brexit?
Labour's strongest seat, Liverpool Walton (81% in 2015) voted for Brexit as well.
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« Reply #114 on: June 08, 2017, 03:23:30 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour area when it voted heavily for brexit?

Because most people don't run their entire political worldview based on how they voted in the EU election?
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« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2017, 03:24:53 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour area when it voted heavily for brexit?

A million other people beat me to it, but White Working Class people in Britain, especially in the North, still vote Labour.

(see the earlier topic "do coal miners vote tory, labour or lib dem?")
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« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2017, 03:24:56 PM »

While 350-360 is good it is probably disappointing as the Tories were expected to get any where between 395-405 when the campaign began , and 395-405 seats likely means the Tories would be safe for 10 more years, while with 350-360 its possible that they will lose next time. 

big majorities don't guarantee success at the next election - if they went in to the next election with Major-level popularity levels then they'd struggle a lot.

Major's majority essentially evaporated during his term, correct?
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« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2017, 03:28:01 PM »

While 350-360 is good it is probably disappointing as the Tories were expected to get any where between 395-405 when the campaign began , and 395-405 seats likely means the Tories would be safe for 10 more years, while with 350-360 its possible that they will lose next time. 

big majorities don't guarantee success at the next election - if they went in to the next election with Major-level popularity levels then they'd struggle a lot.

Major's majority essentially evaporated during his term, correct?
Yeah it was gone by 1996
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« Reply #118 on: June 08, 2017, 03:28:12 PM »

How is Sunderland such a safe labour area when it voted heavily for brexit?

My understanding--which could be wrong but which is, I hope, at least a little more recondite than that of most other non-British posters in the threads for this election--is that, while the Brexit campaign was run mostly by and on the terms of the "populist" hard right, previous voting behavior and ostensible political ideology weren't especially good indicators of actually voting for Brexit. A whole boatload of mostly lower-class Labour voters voted for it as a protest against, among other things, the soft-center-right technocracy of the "Eurocrats". Also, apparently Sikhs broke hard for Brexit.

A few days after the vote I read an article in I think the Grauniad that quoted someone living on a council estate in the North of England as saying something like "if you've got money, you vote in; if you don't, you vote out".
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« Reply #119 on: June 08, 2017, 03:29:23 PM »

So how low would Labour's seat count have to go for them to be able to oust Corbyn?  Below 180?
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« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2017, 03:33:14 PM »

So how low would Labour's seat count have to go for them to be able to oust Corbyn?  Below 180?
Corbyn isn't leaving, his base will just blame any setback on New Labour (never mind that they haven't been in power for a decade)
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« Reply #121 on: June 08, 2017, 03:35:05 PM »

I believe I read awhile ago that some Labour MPs would create a new party or something if Corbyn stays on after loss. Does that still hold?
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« Reply #122 on: June 08, 2017, 03:36:31 PM »

So how low would Labour's seat count have to go for them to be able to oust Corbyn?  Below 180?

The thing is, who are the Labour MPs losing their seats in that scenario? If they are anti-Corbynites, then Corbyn's relative power within the parliamentary Labour Party may even increase?
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« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »

I believe I read awhile ago that some Labour MPs would create a new party or something if Corbyn stays on after loss. Does that still hold?

I'd assume no.  Blairites want Corbyn gone but they aren't dumb enough to give the Tories a majority of 425+
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« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2017, 03:45:30 PM »

Have there been any turnout figures yet?
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