CNN/ORC national poll: Clinton leads all GOP candidates by double digits (user search)
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porky88
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« on: March 19, 2015, 06:02:42 PM »

The same poll you are citing shows that Hillary's favorability rating is at its lowest point since June of 2008, and her unfavorability rating is at its highest point since June of 2008. (That's using CNN-sponsored polling's OWN past numbers - it's not comparing X to Y.)

So what? It's nearly the same as her favorables in May 2014. Regardless, even Hillary's numbers in June 08 are far superior to any of the Republican candidates.

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In Obama's comfortable 2012 victory, he lost the white vote 59-39. So a 43-54 favorable rating among whites is pretty damn good. And you're overestimating how far minority turnout will fall. Blacks still turned out for Gore and Kerry after all. If Hillary wins 40% of the white vote, she wins the election.

Blacks did not turn out for Kerry, at least, nothing like they did for Obama. Bush got 11% of the black vote, McCain/Romney got 4 and 6% respectively. I expect the black vote to be more republican in 2016, simply because there will not be a black on the democratic ticket, and there are blacks, like it or not, who voted for Obama solely because of his race. I will be very surprised if the republican candidate in 2016 does not hit 8% of the black vote, and I can definitely see 10 or even 12%.

Hasn't minority turnout increased in every election since '92? It just shot way up with Obama at the top of the ticket. Nonetheless, I think the point IcySpear is making is that a 43 percent favorable rating for a democrat is a very good number. I think Gore received 40 percent of the white vote, and he won the overall popular vote. Kerry came within one state of the presidency with 39 percent.

In other words, even if minority turnout falls, anything above 40 percent among whites and Hillary is probably elected the next president of the United States. Unless the Republican party dramatically changes their strategy.
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