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DavidB.
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« on: June 08, 2017, 03:46:24 PM »

Is Ed Balls standing in any constituency this year?
No, there's a new Labour candidate in Morley and Outwood.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 04:02:41 PM »

Really hope this is wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 05:11:16 PM »

This looks better already. Getting more optimistic.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2017, 05:24:01 PM »

I never felt that it was going to be 350+. Always felt that was wishful thinking after May moved so far to the right (or showed her true colors).
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DavidB.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 05:32:55 PM »

I never felt that it was going to be 350+. Always felt that was wishful thinking after May moved so far to the right (or showed her true colors).
LOL she moved to the Left and didn't talk about immigration...
She moved to the right on the economy, which made many swing voters and potential Conservative voters think "the nasty party" was back and that May was simply another business conservative instead of someone who's there for ordinary people too. She blew it with the "dementia tax" and fox hunting nonsense.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 05:52:42 PM »

Results are only coming from the north east and safe labout seats so far. I want to see other regions and swing seats first before i want to make any conclusion
Yeah, like last time, we need Swindon N and Nuneaton
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DavidB.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 06:00:22 PM »

Good lord, can we please not play this doom and gloom-to-OMG we're going to win based off of every individual result? That'll drive you (and everyone else) insane.
Sounds boring. That's what everybody does. That's what nights like these are supposed to look like.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2017, 06:04:11 PM »

Swindon probably confirms it. The Tories may be f**ked.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2017, 06:09:28 PM »

Washington and Sunderland West shows another swing to the Tories. If this is in a safe seat... then what do the marginals look like?
It may be that Tories' gains are distributed much less efficiently. Winning in Leave areas where Labour hold on anyway, losing (as in: swing to Labour) in areas that are less Leave or Remain and more marginal.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2017, 06:25:26 PM »

If anyone is watching the BBC, who is anchoring? David Dimbelby or Huw Edwards? They are strong British journalists.
Dimbleby, love him
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DavidB.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2017, 06:42:25 PM »

Exactly. Thought it was done after Swindon N
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DavidB.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2017, 06:46:43 PM »

Can we stop the beep boop sh**t about good leaders in the 1830s
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DavidB.
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2017, 09:24:24 PM »

Damn, Conservatives are going to lose Canterbury for the first time since 1918!

wow so 2017 UK = 2016 USA
Seriously. You need to stop with the ing stupid bullsh**t
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DavidB.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2017, 10:56:11 PM »

What is now the expectation?
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DavidB.
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2017, 11:09:12 PM »

Wes Streeting probably holding on in Ilford North
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DavidB.
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2017, 04:39:39 PM »

Haven't read much about the causes of the SNP collapse. It seems to me that they have been so successful at being perceived as a left-wing party and attracting Labour voters that they have left a lot of space on the right and alienated right-wing voters... but then why didn't these Scottish right-wingers vote for the Tories in 2015 already? What made them move to the Tories this time?
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DavidB.
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2017, 05:02:53 PM »

Haven't read much about the causes of the SNP collapse. It seems to me that they have been so successful at being perceived as a left-wing party and attracting Labour voters that they have left a lot of space on the right and alienated right-wing voters... but then why didn't these Scottish right-wingers vote for the Tories in 2015 already? What made them move to the Tories this time?

Cameron being more associated with austerity than May maybe? May vocally buried Thatcherism during the campaign and if I'm right the Tory downfall in Scotland started with Thatcher. Maybe it saved her after all Tongue.

You guys are really overestimating how much of an impact May's rhetorical movement to the left on economics had. Just saying...
I'm not? I'm arguing that it was merely rhetorical and not real all the time. And in my above post I'm talking about the SNP attracting Labour voters, not about the Tories.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2017, 05:04:50 PM »

Pretty sure the exit poll had Con at 314?
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DavidB.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2017, 09:56:12 AM »
« Edited: June 10, 2017, 09:58:43 AM by DavidB. »

Is anyone up to drawing a net swing map by constituency? I'd be very interested in unpacking the patterns there.
NYT have one here. Big swings to Labour in London, the South, the North West, and urban areas in general. Small swings (sometimes even to the Tories) in the Midlands and even bigger swings to the Tories in North Eastern Leaveland and in Scotland (for different reasons, obviously).
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DavidB.
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2017, 02:15:22 PM »

Is anyone up to drawing a net swing map by constituency? I'd be very interested in unpacking the patterns there.

Swing not particularly meaningful this election given the UKIP collapse and the mobilisation of the student vote.

I know that that's likely what we would see in a swing map, but why isn't it interesting to see?
I posted a link to one, in case you missed it.
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