It's amazing Bush won.

[Derek]

Yes 8 years of one party is plenty for the American public. In 1960 Eisenhower would've had a 3rd term and Kennedy won. Same with Clinton in 2000. Bush did win, but he also ran against a complete putts. My point being that people like the right kind of change in moderation. As for 9/11, I'm not sure what to say except for maybe our Electoral College system was a gift from God back in the 18th century that was put in place to defeat the terrorists after the attacks. If Gore would've been in office, we would have a section of our country devoted to Islamic rule and Charil law. Thank God for Bush and thank God for our Electoral College system.

[Derek]

Yes 8 years of one party is plenty for the American public. In 1960 Eisenhower would've had a 3rd term and Kennedy won. Same with Clinton in 2000. Bush did win, but he also ran against a complete putts. My point being that people like the right kind of change in moderation. As for 9/11, I'm not sure what to say except for maybe our Electoral College system was a gift from God back in the 18th century that was put in place to defeat the terrorists after the attacks. If Gore would've been in office, we would have a section of our country devoted to Islamic rule and Charil law. Thank God for Bush and thank God for our Electoral College system.

That is utterly ridiculous I cant believe alot this stuff you say.

You weren't taught growing up to thank God that we have Bush in office? I was and now I understand why. (I'm being very sincere here).

[Derek]

No I always said God forbid he does for this country what he did for the Texas Rangers, took a world championship caliber baseball team, and ran them straight into the ground. Of course he has done that with everything he ever touched, the rangers, buisnesses, and ultimately this nation. We are a million times worse off than we he took office.

The Texas Rangers were a winning team as late as 1999.

[Derek]

That's just not true.

Immediately after the attack, people on the news were already debating whether Bush was "being rational" about all of this..."does it really make sense to invade another country?"..."not even the mighty Soviet Empire could beat the Afghans!"

Gore would not have invaded.

Are you so sure? You're speculating. I'm speculating too, to be objective about it, but I think the political pressure would have made him have to invade(or the Republican Congress would have declared war anyways and Gore would have had to).

I agree with what you've said. And people shouldn't forget the influence of would-be vice president Lieberman

lol. The GOP Congress wouldn't have been so foolish to declare or propose war on Iraq if the U.S. President would be against such an idea. Gore could just point out the GOP for being hypocrites by opposing the bombings in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s to prevent genocide but supporting a war against Iraq, which wasn't an immediate threat to the U.S. Also, Gore wouldn't have manipulated the intelligence regarding Iraq the way Bush did. Finally, if the GOP Congress ever proposed this, Gore could have just said that they are ignoring ordianry Americans during tough economic times and want to cause foreign adventures when we should be focusing on our domestic problems and concerns.

They didn't manipulate intelligence though. You all sound like broken records:

He cheated in Florida.
Tax cuts for the rich.
No war for oil.
He knew about 9/11.
He was on vacation during Hurricane Katrina.
He lied about the WMD.

Wha Wha Wha let me get my violin.

[Derek]

That's just not true.

Immediately after the attack, people on the news were already debating whether Bush was "being rational" about all of this..."does it really make sense to invade another country?"..."not even the mighty Soviet Empire could beat the Afghans!"

Gore would not have invaded.

Are you so sure? You're speculating. I'm speculating too, to be objective about it, but I think the political pressure would have made him have to invade(or the Republican Congress would have declared war anyways and Gore would have had to).

I agree with what you've said. And people shouldn't forget the influence of would-be vice president Lieberman

lol. The GOP Congress wouldn't have been so foolish to declare or propose war on Iraq if the U.S. President would be against such an idea. Gore could just point out the GOP for being hypocrites by opposing the bombings in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s to prevent genocide but supporting a war against Iraq, which wasn't an immediate threat to the U.S. Also, Gore wouldn't have manipulated the intelligence regarding Iraq the way Bush did. Finally, if the GOP Congress ever proposed this, Gore could have just said that they are ignoring ordianry Americans during tough economic times and want to cause foreign adventures when we should be focusing on our domestic problems and concerns.

They didn't manipulate intelligence though. You all sound like broken records:

He cheated in Florida.
Tax cuts for the rich.
No war for oil.
He knew about 9/11.
He was on vacation during Hurricane Katrina.
He lied about the WMD.

Wha Wha Wha let me get my violin.

-He did cheat in Florida
-He did give tax cuts to the rich
-He probably did go to Iraq for oil
-He new an attack like 9/11 was imminent
-He was on vacation at John McCain's ranch during Katrina
-And he did lie about WMD

Derek, all of this stuff is true.

If you watch the BBC, Al-Jazeera, and CNN then it's understandable how you'd believe such lies.

[Derek]

That's just not true.

Immediately after the attack, people on the news were already debating whether Bush was "being rational" about all of this..."does it really make sense to invade another country?"..."not even the mighty Soviet Empire could beat the Afghans!"

Gore would not have invaded.

Are you so sure? You're speculating. I'm speculating too, to be objective about it, but I think the political pressure would have made him have to invade(or the Republican Congress would have declared war anyways and Gore would have had to).

I agree with what you've said. And people shouldn't forget the influence of would-be vice president Lieberman

lol. The GOP Congress wouldn't have been so foolish to declare or propose war on Iraq if the U.S. President would be against such an idea. Gore could just point out the GOP for being hypocrites by opposing the bombings in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s to prevent genocide but supporting a war against Iraq, which wasn't an immediate threat to the U.S. Also, Gore wouldn't have manipulated the intelligence regarding Iraq the way Bush did. Finally, if the GOP Congress ever proposed this, Gore could have just said that they are ignoring ordianry Americans during tough economic times and want to cause foreign adventures when we should be focusing on our domestic problems and concerns.

They didn't manipulate intelligence though. You all sound like broken records:

He cheated in Florida.
Tax cuts for the rich.
No war for oil.
He knew about 9/11.
He was on vacation during Hurricane Katrina.
He lied about the WMD.

Wha Wha Wha let me get my violin.

-He did cheat in Florida
-He did give tax cuts to the rich
-He probably did go to Iraq for oil
-He new an attack like 9/11 was imminent
-He was on vacation at John McCain's ranch during Katrina
-And he did lie about WMD

Derek, all of this stuff is true.

If you watch the BBC, Al-Jazeera, and CNN then it's understandable how you'd believe such lies.

Actually, I hate CNN, never have heard of Al-Jazeera, and only read the BBC's internet news.

Ok then ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, anything out of the US. Al-Jazeera is a Muslim and state owned media in Israel who only gives Al-Qaida's view on the War on Terror.

[Derek]

They would have won a couple of world series if that moron hadnt been the g.m. LOL my god the idiot traded away Juan Gonzalez and Sammy Sosa. And guys you cant tell him anything. Bill O'Reilly tell him what to believe, all he knows is what the talking points tell him.

Those players didn't look strong when he got rid of them. The same can be said for alot of players before they peak.

[Derek]

LOL WHATEVER, Now your just making stuff up asyou go.

Do you still lose sleep at night over the 2000 election?

[Derek]

LOL WHATEVER, Now your just making stuff up asyou go.

Do you still lose sleep at night over the 2000 election?

We would have been alot better off, so would 5,000 dead american troops, and half a million dead Iraq's, plus you probably wouldnt be on this forum either lol.

So you're losing sleep?