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Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
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« on: November 15, 2016, 11:55:31 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lapd-says-no-to-trump-immigration-enforcement_us_582af03de4b0c4b63b0e5d76

I don't agree with Trump's immigration plan, but at this point, we elected him and must comply with his plans.
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 05:02:01 PM »

^^Oh, please. Trump has already started backing off of the worst of his campaign promises. Do as Hillary said and enter his presidency with an open mind.

To some of the other replies: I get that it's not LAPD's job to personally escort people back across the border. But what the article is implying is that if the LAPD is arresting and detaining someone for x offense, and in the process of doing that, they happen to learn that person is an illegal immigrant, they will not report that to the federal police forces, unless the crime is "serious" (whatever that is supposed to mean) . Assuming that an order for deportation of illegal immigrants that have committed a crime aside from their immigration is enacted during a Trump presidency, which seems pretty likely to happen, doing the action I just described is direct noncompliance with the orders of and disloyalty to the federal government.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2016, 02:04:42 AM »

This reminds me of the personal liberty laws Northern Whigs passed after the Compromise of 1850 to assert that local constabularies would not assist slavecatchers in dragging alleged slaves South.  I can just imagine people like Wulfric disagreeing with the lack of local assistance with enforcing Federal law.

Interesting attempt at a connection, but cracking down on illegal immigration and protecting slavery are two completely different actions.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2016, 08:25:54 PM »

This reminds me of the personal liberty laws Northern Whigs passed after the Compromise of 1850 to assert that local constabularies would not assist slavecatchers in dragging alleged slaves South.  I can just imagine people like Wulfric disagreeing with the lack of local assistance with enforcing Federal law.

Interesting attempt at a connection, but cracking down on illegal immigration and protecting slavery are two completely different actions.

In both cases, a State government was refusing to aid the Federal government in carrying out a policy it considered to be wrong.  If you think States should never do that, then I suppose you also opposed States not expanding Medicaid eligibility or setting up exchanges when the ACA was enacted.

Well, I think it's possible that the ACA might have worked out better (it's a complete failure in a number of states) if all states had state exchanges and expanded medicaid, but that's another discussion.

I guess in an extreme case like slavery you could justify state government "civil disobedience". But this isn't an extreme case. It's simply actually caring about the border. Trump has stated that he will, at least at first, priortize those who have committed crimes aside from their immigration over other illegal immigrants. It's a perfectly reasonable and humane action to deport those folks and state governments should not withhold any information they happen to learn on this matter.
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