List of Alternate Presidents

[Captain Chaos]

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt: 1933-1941
33. Herbert Hoover: 1941-1949
34. Thomas Dewey: 1949-1953**
35. Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1957***
36. Lyndon Johnson: 1957-1961
37. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1969
38.  Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1973**
39. John F. Kennedy: 1973-1977
40. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1981**
41. Gerald Ford: 1981-1981****
42. George H.W. Bush: 1981-1989
43. Gary Hart: 1989-1991*
44. Bill Clinton: 1991-1993**
45. Colin Powell: 1993-2001
46. John McCain: 2001-2005*****
47. Eliot Spitzer: 2005-2007º
48. Newt Gingrich: 2007-2009
49. Michael Bloomberg: 2009-2021
50. Jon Huntsman: 2021-


*Resigned over sex scandal;
**Defeated for Reelection
***Stepped down after one term for health reasons
**** Died in Office
*****Denied Renomination
ºImpeached for perjury, Speaker of the House becomes President after Resignation of VP 

1. Why would Herbert Hoover get elected President in 1940?
2. Why would JFK become a Republican?

[Captain Chaos]

Ulysses Grant¹ 1869-1877
Rutherford Hayes² 1877-1881
James Garfield³ 1881
Chester Arthur⁴ 1881-1885
Grover Cleveland⁵ 1885-1889; 1893-1897
Benjamin Harrison⁶ 1889-1893

¹ Popular general from most recent major conflict
² Narrowly elected with accusations of fraud from opponents
³ Assassinated
⁴ Politically-connected Vice-President implementing goals of predecessor
⁵ The Comeback Kid
⁶ Spendthrift Republican leaving his successor to deal with economic crisis

Dude, those were OTL Presidents.

[Captain Chaos]

Ulysses Grant¹ 1869-1877
Rutherford Hayes² 1877-1881
James Garfield³ 1881
Chester Arthur⁴ 1881-1885
Grover Cleveland⁵ 1885-1889; 1893-1897
Benjamin Harrison⁶ 1889-1893

¹ Popular general from most recent major conflict
² Narrowly elected with accusations of fraud from opponents
³ Assassinated
⁴ Politically-connected Vice-President implementing goals of predecessor
⁵ The Comeback Kid
⁶ Spendthrift Republican leaving his successor to deal with economic crisis

Dude, those were OTL Presidents.

I was merely positing a hypothetical scenario where 1869-1897 Presidents mirrored 1953-1981 Presidents.

No you are not. You listed the OTL Presidents from 1869-1897. That is NOT a hypothetical scenario.

If you wanted Grant as an Eisenhower analogue, then a Democrat should be elected in 1876 and assassinated in 1879.

[Captain Chaos]

Presidents
1962-1969 - Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)
1969-1971 - George Wallace (AI-AL)*/Colonel Sanders (AI-KY)
1971-1973 - Colonel Sanders (AI-KY)/None
1973-1977 - Colonel Sanders (AI-KY)/John Stennis (AI-MS)
1977-1981 - Frank Church (D-ID)/Dale Bumpers (D-AR)
1981-1989 - George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Phil Crane (R-IL)
1989-1997 - Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1997-2001 - Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
2001-2005 - Mike Huckabee (AI-AR)/Rick Santorum (AI-PA)
2005-2009 - Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
2009-2017 - Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Michael Bloomberg (R-NY)

Defeated Candidates
1968 - Hubert Humphrey (D-MN), Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
1972 - George McGovern (D-SD), Harold Stassen (R-MN)
1976 - Mark Hatfield (R-OR), George Mahoney (AI-MD)
1980 - Frank Church (D-ID), John T. Williams (AI-AZ)
1984 - Dale Bumpers (D-AR), Fob James (AI-AL)
1988 - Phil Crane (R-IL), John Stennis (AI-MS)
1992 - Pat Buchanan (R/AI-DC)
1996 - William Weld (R-MA), Mike Huckabee (AI-AR)
2000 - Bill Clinton (D-AR), Jim Edgar (R-IL)
2004 - Michael Bloomberg (R-NY), Mike Huckabee (AI-AR)
2008 - Joe Biden (D-DE), Rick Santorum (AI-PA)
2012 - Hillary Clinton (D-NY), David Duke (AI-LA)

At least Colonel Sanders would be one of the best-dressed Presidents.

[Captain Chaos]

33. Harry S. Truman (Democrat-Missouri) April 12th, 1945-January 20th, 1949
34. Wendell Willkie (Liberal-New York)/Harold Stassen (Liberal-Minnesota) January 20th, 1949-October 8th, 1950
35. Harold Stassen (Liberal-Minnesota) October 8th, 1950-January 20th, 1953
36. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-New York)/Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1953-September 24th, 1955
37. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) September 24th, 1955-January 20th, 1957
38. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1957-November 22nd, 1962
39. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat-Texas) November 22nd, 1962-January 20th, 1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (Liberal-Minnesota)/John V. Lindsay (Liberal-New York) January 20th, 1969
41. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California)/Spiro T. Agnew (Republican-Maryland) January 20th, 1969-August 9th, 1972
42. Spiro T. Agnew (Republican-Maryland) August 9th, 1972-January 20th, 1973
43. Henry M. Jackson (Democrat-Washington)/James E. Carter (Democrat-Georgia) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
44. Barry M. Goldwater (Republican-Arizona)/Gerald R. Ford (Republican-Michigan) January 20th, 1977-March 30th, 1981
45. Gerald R. Ford (Republican-Michigan)/John Tower (Republican-Texas) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1985
46. Edward M. Kennnedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Maryland) January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1989
47. Lowell Weicker (Liberal-Connecticut)/J. Robert Kerrey (Liberal-Nebraska) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
48. William J. Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas)/Albert Gore, Jr. (Democrat-Tennessee) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
49. John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona)/George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
50. Barrack H. Obama, Jr. (Liberal-Illinois)/Larry Pressler (Liberal-South Dakota) January 20th, 2009-Present

This would make an interesting timeline. My guess is that POD Willkie does not die of a heart attack in 1943 and joins the Liberal Party and/or he is not nominated by the Republicans for President in 1940.

[Captain Chaos]

Excellent William Allison as Woodrow Wilson analogue that you put together there.

[Captain Chaos]

And the Curse of Tippecanoe lives on

[Captain Chaos]

34th President: Dwight Eisenhower, R-NY / Prescott Bush, R-CT: 1953-1961
35th President: Prescott Bush, R-CT / Nelson Rockefeller, R-NY: 1961-1965 * Lost re-election
36th President: Stuart Symington, D-MO / Henry "Scoop" Jackson, D-WA: 1965-1973
37th President: Charles Percy, R-IL / Ronald Reagan, R-CA: 1973-1981
38th President: Robert F. Kennedy, D-NY/ Jesse Helms, D-NC: 1981-1986 *** Assassinated
39th President: Jesse Helms, D-NC / Gary Hart, D-CO: 1986-1989 * Lost re-election
40th President: George H.W. Bush, R-TX / Jack Kemp, R-NY: 1989-1993 * Lost re-election
41st President: Al Gore, D-TN / Dick Gephardt, D-MO: 1993-1997 * Lost re-election
42nd President: Colin Powell, R-NY / George W. Bush, R-TX: 1997-2005
43rd President: Joe Lieberman, D-CT / Zell Miller, D-GA: 2005-2013
44th President: Evan Bayh, R-IN / Lincoln Chafee, R-RI: 2013-2017 * Lost re-election
45th President: Rick Perry, D-TX / Andrew Cuomo, D-NY: 2017-Current

I just can't see Rick Perry as a Democrat...

This is a list in which the GOP is still controlled by the northeastern establishment instead of becoming more conservative. Hence, southern Democrats Helms, Gore and Perry in the White House

[Captain Chaos]

Looks like Cassius Clay is the greatest President "of all time."

[Captain Chaos]

FDR=Lincoln analogue

[Captain Chaos]

25. William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska)/Arthur Sewall (Democrat-Maine), Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democrat-Illinois) March 4th, 1897-September 14th, 1901
26. Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democrat-Illinois) September 14th, 1901-March 4th, 1905
27. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Charles Warren Fairbanks (Republican-Indiana) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1909
28. George Brinton McClellan, Jr. (Democrat-New York)/John W. Kern (Democrat-Indiana) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1913
29. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/William Howard Taft (Republican-Ohio) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1917
30. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democrat-New Jersey)/Thomas Riley Marshall (Democrat-Indiana), Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat-New York) March 4th, 1917-February 3rd, 1922
31. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat-New York)/Charles Wayland Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) February 3rd, 1922-March 4th, 1929
32. William Gibbs McAdoo (Democrat-California)/Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democrat-Arkansas) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933
33. Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Charles Curtis (Republican-Kansas) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941
34. John Nance Garner (Democrat-Texas)/Joseph Patrick Kennedy I (Democrat-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1941-November 22nd, 1943
35. Joseph Patrick Kennedy I (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Harry Hines Woodring (Democrat-Kansas) November 22nd, 1943-January 20th, 1949
36. Wendell Lewis Willkie (Democrat-Indiana)/Alben William Barkley (Democrat-Kentucky) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1953
37. Thomas Edmund Dewey (Republican-New York)/Joseph William Martin, Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts), Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Republican-Minnesota), Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1953-March 16th, 1965
38. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/Hugh Doggett Scott, Jr. (Republican-Pennsylvania) March 16th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
39. Henry Martin Jackson (Democrat-Washington)/Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
40. Edward William Brooke III (Republican-Massachusetts)/Howard Henry Baker, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1983
41. Howard Henry Baker, III (Republican-Tennessee)/John Bayard Anderson (Republican-Illinois) March 30th, 1983-January 20th, 1989
42. Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas)/Gary Warren Hart (Democrat-Colorado), Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia) January 20th, 1989-December 22nd, 1994
43. Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia)/Adlai Ewing Stevenson III (Democrat-Illinois) December 22nd, 1994-January 20th, 1997
44. Newton Leroy Gingrich (Republican-Georgia)/Arlen Specter (Republican-Pennsylvania) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001

TR = Grover Cleveland analogue

[Captain Chaos]

Hillary Clinton¹ 2017-2022 / Terry McAuliffe 2017-2021
Paul Ryan² 2022-2025 / Jeb Bush 2022-2025
Jason Carter³ 2025-2029 / Amy Klobuchar 2025-2029
Dave Brat⁴ 2029-2037 / George P. Bush 2029-2037

¹Longtime political veteran prevails over a favorite of organized labor and an unconventional candidate frustrated with political correctness, eight years after her close loss to a minority Senator with comparatively little political experience.
²After the indictment and resignation of the Vice-President for bribery charges, and the impeachment of the President for a political cover-up, the Speaker of the House ascends to the Presidency, picking a failed centrist candidate from a prominent political family as a caretaker Vice-President.
³ The failed 2014 Georgia gubernatorial nominee against all odds wins a longshot bid for the Democratic nomination, then rides a poor economy, frustration with Washington, and Ryan and Bush's gaffes into the White House.
⁴ After four years of malaise, the nation turns to a professor-turned-politician, who after a nasty primary battle picks a George Bush to be Vice-President.

Hillary is the Nixon analogue?

[Captain Chaos]

"The best Republican President we've had in a while." -Alan Greenspan

40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1981
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1981-1985
42. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) 1985-1993
43. William Jefferson Clinton (R-AR)/Judd Gregg (R-NH) 1993-2001
44. Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Carroll Campbell (R-SC) 2001-2005
45. John Edwards (D-NC)/John F. Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2009
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (R-NY)/Barack Obama, Jr. (R-IL) 2009-Present

I find it hard to believe that Bill Clinton would switch to the GOP after the Gipper is assassinated in 1981.

[Captain Chaos]

12 years ago, there was a TL on this forum in which the USA grew to include states in every habitable continent on this planet. I am talking about "Superimperialist America" which you can read here in these links.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=1970.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=9142

1845-1851: James K. Polk/George M. Dallas (D)
1851-1853: George M. Dallas/vacant (D)
1853-1853: Franklin Pierce/William R.D. King (D)
1853-1857: Franklin Pierce/vacant (D)
1857-1861: Franklin Pierce/John C. Breckinridge (D)
1861-1865: James Gadsden/Stephen Douglas (D)
1865-1866: Stephen Douglas/George Pendleton (D)
1866-1869: George Pendleton/vacant (D)
1869-1875: Horace Greeley/Schuyler Colfax (R)
1875-1877: Schuyler Colfax/vacant (R)
1877-1881: Samuel Tilden/Thomas Hendricks (D)
1881-1881: James Garfield/Chester Alan Arthur (R)
1881-1885: Chester Alan Arthur/vacant (R)
1885-1885: Thomas Hendricks/Grover Cleveland (D)
1885-1886: Grover Cleveland/vacant (D)
1886-1893: Grover Cleveland/Allen Thurman (D)
1893-1894: James Weaver/James Field (P)
1894-1897: Theodore Roosevelt/vacant (P)
1897-1905: Theodore Roosevelt/Arthur Sewall (P)
1905-1909: William Howard Taft/James Sherman (P)
1909-1913: Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson (P)
1913-1914: Hiram Johnson/Thomas Marshall (P)
1914-1915: Thomas Marshall/Woodrow Wilson (P)
1915-1917: Woodrow Wilson/James Cox (P)
1917-1918: Robert Borden/Charles Fairbanks (C)
1918-1929: Robert Borden/Herbert Hoover (C)
1929-1933: Herbert Hoover/Charles Dawes (C)
1933-1937: Theodore Roosevelt/Franklin D. Roosevelt (P)
1937-1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (P)
1941-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Wendell Willkie (P-C) (2)
1945-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt/William L.M. King (P-C-CCF) (2)
1945-1949: William L.M. King/Henry Wallace (P)
1949-1953: Harry S Truman/Thomas Dewey (P)
1953-1961: Dwight Eisenhower/Adlai Stevenson (P)
1961-1963: Richard Nixon/Gustavo Diaz Ordaz (R)
1963-1969: Gustavo Diaz Ordaz/Henry Cabot Lodge (R) (3)
1969-1977: John F. Kennedy/Harold Wilson (P)
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan/Joe Clark (R-A)
1981-1981: Joe Clark/vacant (R)
1981-1982: John F. Kennedy/J.M.G. Adams (P)
1982-1985: J.M.G. Adams/Gro Harlem Bruntland (P)
1985-1989: Margaret Thatcher/George H.W. Bush (R)
1989-1997: Richard Gephardt/Robert Mugabe (P)
1997: Strom Thurmond/John Ashcroft (A) (5)
1997: John Ashcroft (A)/Ralph Nader (S) (6)
1997: Ralph Nader (S)/vacant (7)
1997-2001: Silvio Berlusconi (R)/Ralph Nader (S) [8]
2001-2009: Silvio Berlusconi/Denis Burke (R)
2009-2013: Denis Burke/Rick Santorum (R)
2013-2017: Dennis Kucinich/Anote Tong (S-D)
2017-Present: Arnold Schwarzenegger/Mary Fallin (R)

(1) was Sec of State when President Weaver & Vice President Field died in Washington DC fire
(2) Conservatives cross-endorsed FDR as a wartime national unity ticket in 1940 and 1944 with the CCF endorsing the incumbent President in 1944
(3) cross-endorsed by CCF and Statehood Coalition in 1956 and 1964
(4) assassinated 4 days after Reagan's assassination without selecting a VP. JFK was Speaker of the House when Clark died.
(5) Speaker of the House when House failed to elect a President by 1/20/97 after deadlock in the Electoral College. Thurmond picked Ashcroft as acting VP when the Senate failed to reach a quorum needed to elect a VP
(6) Senate elected Nader as VP. Nader was Rubert Mugabe's running mate in 1996 and was sworn in as Vice President minutes before Thurmond resigned as acting President.
(7) Ashcroft was acting Vice President because he was not elected by the Senate. He was briefly acting President before Nader was formally sworn in as Vice President.
[8] With Gephardt and Mugabe unwilling to concede to the other, moderates in all parties in the House switched their votes to Berlusconi which gave him the majority of state delegations needed to be elected President.

R = Republican
D = Democrat
P = Populist, later changed to Progressive during Theodore Roosevelt Presidency. The Progressives declined in popularity during Nader's Vice Presidency. The most left wing members of the Progressives switched to the Socialists. The remaining Progressives renamed themselves the Democratic party. However, they endorsed the Socialist ticket in 2012 in order to unite the left and ensure a return to the White House.
C = Conservative
CCF = Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Statehood Coalition = founded by Mohammad Hatta to lobby for statehood for districts and occupied territories in Southeast Asia. Hatta ran for POTUS in 1948 and 1952 but decided not to run for President since and used to party to lobby for statehood, endorse candidates friendly to his views and get himself elected to the US House of Representatives. The party disbanded after his death in 1979.
A = American, split from the Conservatives in the late 1950's on platform of giving independence to all states and territories outside North America. Most members were from the southeastern continental USA (the remaining Conservatives renamed themselves back to the Republican party). Unable to win Presidential elections on its own, it nominated Ronald Reagan in 1976 and 1980 in order to stop Congressman Pol Pot (A-Indochina) from winning the American party primaries. The party would disband after the 2004 elections as a few of its members joined the Republicans, including Rick Santorum.

[Captain Chaos]

Agreed. I doubt the GOP would fold in 2017. Maybe 2018 or 2019 if the Republicans lose the midterms combined with mass defections to the Libertarians and other conservative third parties.

[Captain Chaos]

The link does not work either. Can you re-post?

[Captain Chaos]

Was there supposed to be a wikibox of the 2020 election? If so, I don't see it.

[Captain Chaos]

I believe that this forum is not the best place to post wikipedia info boxes. Just post the electoral vote map.

[Captain Chaos]

46. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Professor Lawrence Lessig
47. Senator Kamala Harris and Senator Jason Kander
48. Entrepreneur Peter Thiel and Senator Joni Ernst
49. Vice President Jason Kander and Representative Tulsi Gabbard
50. Senator Tom Cotton and Governor George P. Bush

What years?