Has jfern raised your opinion of Hillary Clinton?

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Come on, they are generally criticisms from the left. People claiming that any criticism of Hillary is right-wing has certainly lowered my opinion of Hillary supporters.

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Come on, they are generally criticisms from the left.

Really, most of my criticisms are, while some are about ethical issues that are neither right nor left wing.

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Come on, they are generally criticisms from the left. People claiming that any criticism of Hillary is right-wing has certainly lowered my opinion of Hillary supporters.

Your "criticism from the left" of her rarely rises above just "NEOLIBERAL CORPORATIST WARMONGER!" style ranting that's impossible to take seriously.

Oh give me a break, I've listed specific reasons plenty of times for why she's so hawkish, and you can look at her husband's Presidency for no shortage of neoliberalism. The Clintons are DLC to the core; the DLC's records belong to the Clinton Foundation. I don't see you talking much about issues, just freaking nonsense.

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Come on, they are generally criticisms from the left. People claiming that any criticism of Hillary is right-wing has certainly lowered my opinion of Hillary supporters.

Your "criticism from the left" of her rarely rises above just "NEOLIBERAL CORPORATIST WARMONGER!" style ranting that's impossible to take seriously.

Oh give me a break, I've listed specific reasons plenty of times for why she's so hawkish, and you can look at her husband's Presidency for no shortage of neoliberalism. The Clintons are DLC to the core; the DLC's records belong to the Clinton Foundation. I don't see you talking much about issues, just freaking nonsense.

Inb4 "b- b- but muh meritocracy"

Don't worry, her male picks will be equally bad.

Also in regards to her hawkishness: http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11504272/hillary-clinton-hawk

The idea that Hillary is no more hawkish than Bernie is completely laughable. He voted against Iraq, Kyl-Lieberman, doesn't support the no fly zone where Russian planes are flying, and doesn't support regime change against Assad while he's fighting ISIS and Al Qaeda. Tulsi Gabbard endorsed Bernie because his Syria policy isn't idiotic.

And I'm sure I can find some posts of yours from 2008 saying she was a hawk when she had 8 years less of a record of being a hawk.

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You know that I voted for Sanders right?

And yet you felt compelled to make this thread for some reason.

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You know that I voted for Sanders right?

And yet you felt compelled to make this thread for some reason.

He probably just wanted to forge consensus on what kind of side effects your unrelenting propaganda and shilling are having on the kind users of Atlas.

Why am I singled out for all the propaganda on this site?

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You know that I voted for Sanders right?

And yet you felt compelled to make this thread for some reason.

Because while I voted for Sanders you still have managed to improve my opinion of Hillary Clinton.

This board has some serious Hillary hacks who say lots of false things about Bernie, and yet you never posted a thread about any of them. This thread shows that you're a dumbass regardless of who you voted for.

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Yes I've pointed out how bizarre and illogical Lyndon is multiple times.

The jfern hateboner for Hillary though is the same because:

1-Much of it is just stupid and unjustified ad hominems (see the Cabinet comment I quoted here. Now how is that supposed to convince anyone that she is awful?)
2-Is frequently brought up in threads completely irrelevant to her and
3-Receives far more attention than attacks on any of the Republican candidates.

1. That wasn't meant to convince anyone.
2. Completely irrelevant, or just somewhat different topic?
3. Of course the Republicans are terrible, but Hillary will do far more damage to the Democratic party than any Republican.

Anyways, I've mentioned many issues that Hillary is bad on, but you don't seem to bother to talk much about the issues.

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Not jfern in particular, but the ridiculous, disproportionate, and over the top amount of hate she gets from the far left in general makes me like her more.

Was it even possible for you to like her more?

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He probably just wanted to forge consensus on what kind of side effects your unrelenting propaganda and shilling are having on the kind users of Atlas.

Why am I singled out for all the propaganda on this site?

Because you by far the most extreme example I have seen so far. I have nothing against you really other than the propaganda part. I don't think you realize, or are willing to admit just how much you do this. You turn benign threads into a vehicle to trash Hillary or support Bernie, as if all these threads only exist to bash her in whatever abstract way you can think of. This isn't an insult, it's an objective observation. So, really I just don't understand why you need to feel to do that. I don't think I've ever seen you be critical of Bernie, either. So it's hard to expect any non-ultrabiased responses from you.

There is a time and place for certain things is all.

I'm not the only one who starts things in other threads.
As for the critical part.

Too pro Israel

I openly disagree with him some here

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You had to bring up a post from three months ago to prove you aren't blindly worshiping Sanders? Do you realize how ridiculous you look?

One was from 3 days ago.

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Besides, like I said earlier, Jfern's in a bit of a vicious cycle here. He supported Obama in '08, then when Obama got in office, he attacked him for being 'too moderate'. I feel like the same thing would happen if Sanders were to win.

I know that I'm not going to agree 100% with any President, in fact I don't agree 100% with Bernie. But I did vote to re-elect Obama despite my obvious disappointments, and I'm sure Bernie would be far less disappointing.

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I'm not the only one who starts things in other threads.

Sure, you aren't, but as I said:

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Which coincidentally, I think you just proved my point.

Too pro Israel

I openly disagree with him some here

Come on lol, the first one is in a thread whose sole purpose is asking 'name one bad thing about sanders', and the 2nd one is literally you saying you disagree some with him openly on here in response to a perceived implication that TN was criticizing you for not criticizing Bernie.

And a couple token efforts doesn't really mean anything. Negative/critical things about bernie rarely ever come from you, and when they do, it looks like they need to be beaten out of you.

I'm sure there are plenty of people on this forum who haven't criticized their own candidate that much. You just feel the need to pile on in this ridiculous garbage personal attack thread.

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I'm sure there are plenty of people on this forum who haven't criticized their own candidate that much. You just feel the need to pile on in this ridiculous garbage personal attack thread.

But once again, you are isolating the criticisms when the annoyance created by them, ....is a result of all of them together. I don't think anyone would care if you were not critical if you didn't insist on looking at every other thread as an opportunity to propagandize.

You just feel the need to pile on in this ridiculous garbage personal attack thread.

Well yes, I accepted & implied that when I posted here

Should we have a thread to personally attack you? Is this what this board is for?