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WalterMitty
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« on: November 19, 2008, 05:06:48 PM »

that obama would win va, nc in and ne-02...BUT LOSE mo....would you have posted it in the comedy coldmenine thread?
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 05:08:27 PM »

Yes, absolutely...
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 04:53:32 AM »

No.

I would have said "not happening" to NE-02... I did say so somewhere round about then, actually... but the remainder was part of my prediction.
You might have gotten yourself goldmined if you'd insisted that Virginia was not at least lean Democrat at that point, though.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 09:50:04 AM »

I would have called you crazy.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 10:27:03 AM »

that obama would win va, nc in and ne-02...BUT LOSE mo....would you have posted it in the comedy coldmenine thread?
win va was conventional wisdom at that point.

win nc was the favored view, but personally I thought that the polls were off a bit, based on results in 2000, 2004 and my own personal reaction to Helms election in 1984.  But having said that I wouldn't have thought it was outlandish to predict an Obama win there.

MO was  a pure tossup all the way - I was pretty confident it would be a nailbiter.

NE-2 was a wildcard that most just assumed was an Obama pipe dream and no one really focused on because it's only 1 EV.  That's really the only shock among the results you mention and given the relative lack of polling and attention, really not that crazy.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 12:15:52 PM »

I wouldn't have believed it; however Virginia was widely expected to go Obama at that point. Indiana and NE-02 were the only shockers. Even Nate Silver got them wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 12:43:40 PM »

No, not at all. VA was lean Obama, NC, MO and NE-2 were tossups.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 05:41:25 PM »

that obama would win va, nc in and ne-02...BUT LOSE mo....would you have posted it in the comedy coldmenine thread?

No, I would have thought it unlikely (Especially ne-2), but still in the realm of possibility. Mainly because I was a bit skeptical of Missouri.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 05:47:20 PM »

that obama would win va, nc in and ne-02...BUT LOSE mo....would you have posted it in the comedy coldmenine thread?

No, I would have thought it unlikely (Especially ne-2), but still in the realm of possibility. Mainly because I was a bit skeptical of Missouri.
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Now if you said he'd win Indiana AND lose Missouri...
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 06:15:29 PM »

Not in the goldmine, but I'd have disagreed strongly.  Except for VA, of course.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008, 11:57:00 AM »

I would have believed va, nc & ne-2 but NEVER Indiana. I had scoffed at that until the moment it was called.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008, 12:56:11 PM »

did team kerry run any ads in indiana at any point in 2004?
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 01:54:35 AM »

Nope. Why am I the only one who thought NC was more likely than MO? I actually had just changed NC to McCain in my predictions the night before (dammit). And, as for NE-2, there was no polling there, so it's impossible to have accurately guessed.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2008, 04:28:14 AM »

Nope. Why am I the only one who thought NC was more likely than MO? I actually had just changed NC to McCain in my predictions the night before (dammit).
I got those them both right.

I hope. Maybe Missouri flips in the end.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2008, 05:00:49 PM »

Nope. It wasn't what I expected though.
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2008, 01:56:23 AM »

Nope, I had predicted a narrow win in MO and a narrow loss in NE-2 so it's no surprise that they inversed.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2008, 10:23:48 PM »

I would have been fine with that prediction. Honestly I don't know why everyone was so shocked about NE-2. Maybe it looked like a pipe dream during the primaries, but it tightened significantly once Obama started competing there. Palin went there...I assume there was some kind of logical basis for that. The night before the election Chuck Todd said it was a "pure tossup."
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