WinDis Polls - 1: Abortion

[Joe Republic]

Jeez, you guys.  Look, if you don't like abortions, then don't get one.

[SvenssonRS]

Jeez, you guys.  Look, if you don't like abortions, then don't get one.

Unfortunately, with Libertas around, things will never be that simple.

[paul718]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

[Scam of God]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

And I've never understood why a libertarian automatically has to be conservative. That's just the way the world works, I suppose.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

And I've never understood why a libertarian automatically has to be conservative. That's just the way the world works, I suppose.

Uh, what? Who said a libertarian "automatically has to be conservative"?

[Scam of God]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

And I've never understood why a libertarian automatically has to be conservative. That's just the way the world works, I suppose.

Uh, what? Who said a libertarian "automatically has to be conservative"?

You seem to be trying your damndest to preserve fusionism.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. I just don't see there being any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

[paul718]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. I just don't see there being any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

I misinterpreted your statement.  Sorry. 

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Pro-life.


I am surprised that 42% is currently Pro-Life. That is probably higher then the National Average when talking about policy.

[ScottM]

Pro-life.


I am surprised that 42% is currently Pro-Life. That is probably higher then the National Average when talking about policy.

Actually, no. Recent Gallup polls have shown that more people identify themselves as pro-life than pro-choice.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Pro-life.


I am surprised that 42% is currently Pro-Life. That is probably higher then the National Average when talking about policy.

Actually, no. Recent Gallup polls have shown that more people identify themselves as pro-life than pro-choice.

Maybe, I haven't really been paying attention to recent polls on issues, just candidates. I do recall polls from like 2005 and 2006 that had Pro-Life in the high 30's and like 50% Pro-Choice. The numbers have definately been going in our direction. Which is a good sign. Its probably one of the few issues were the Generation coming up is more Conservative then their parents, on everything else though, thats a different matter entirely.

[SvenssonRS]

see what I'm getting at?

I can guarantee he won't.

[Electric Feel]

I like freedom so pro-choice.

[paul718]

I like freedom so pro-choice.

I like freedom, too, so pro-life. 

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

     I don't want to force my beliefs on the issue on anyone. That's why I'm pro-choice.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

     I don't want to force my beliefs on the issue on anyone. That's why I'm pro-choice.

Good, so am I. I fully support a woman's right to choose whether to have sex or not.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

     I don't want to force my beliefs on the issue on anyone. That's why I'm pro-choice.

good ownage there.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

                                                              what specific feature? We are talking about a development here of a being that is already human even if there is not as much intelligence or what have you. isn't it at least only a matter of degree rather than a difference in kind?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

     I don't want to force my beliefs on the issue on anyone. That's why I'm pro-choice.

good ownage there.

Yeah, PiT was owned pretty badly. I'm glad you are here to comfort him.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

     I don't want to force my beliefs on the issue on anyone. That's why I'm pro-choice.

good ownage there.

Yeah, PiT was owned pretty badly. I'm glad you are here to comfort him.

oh please. he got you there. If you can't admit that then you take this stuff to seriously. Everyone gets burned once in a while. It just happen to be you this time libertas.

[Electric Feel]

Please, guys, this argument never goes anywhere. NEVER.

Please stop.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

     Besides the point. Many people deny that the fetus should be entitled to the rights of an adult human. From the perspective of an atheist libertarian, there isn't really any sensible reason why they would be.

Why not?  I've never understood why an atheist automatically has to be pro-choice.

     You don't automatically have to be anything. There just isn't any compelling reason for an atheist to be pro-life, at least from the perspective of a liberties-based world view.

Um, it has nothing to do with religion. You either believe in basic human rights, or you don't.

     We've been over this before. I believe in "human rights" because of a specific feature that distinguishes us from animals. It makes sense to me to think of it that way, since there must be some reason that we have rights & animals do not. Now, fetuses do not possess this specific feature...see what I'm getting at?

Yeah, and once again, you want to believe in an arbitrary definition of humanity because it supports your personal agenda. Sorry, but you can't force your beliefs on others.

     I don't want to force my beliefs on the issue on anyone. That's why I'm pro-choice.

good ownage there.

Yeah, PiT was owned pretty badly. I'm glad you are here to comfort him.

oh please. he got you there. If you can't admit that then you take this stuff to seriously. Everyone gets burned once in a while. It just happen to be you this time libertas.

Except I didn't get "burned". Learn how to follow a conversation please.