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uti2
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« on: September 21, 2016, 10:30:30 AM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/02/where-did-donald-trump-get-his-racialized-rhetoric-from-libertarians/


Basically, when the Tea Party movement attempted to co-opt the nascent Ron Paul movement it absorbed the Ron Paul Tradition of Paleolibertarianism.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolibertarianism


Paleolibertarianism represents a mix between libertarianism and right-wing populism. What the Tea Party movement did though was inject this paleolibertarian school of thought when it sought to dump Bush's 'compassionate conservatism'. The reboot also provided an opening for the altright, essentially.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2016, 10:53:30 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2016, 10:55:15 AM by uti2 »

where to start?

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Rothbard literally wrote the book on libertarianism transcending the left-right divide.  The author of this article is clueless.

That's paleolibertarianism which is synthesized with such populism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position

Actually, isolationism represents the Old Right, but he constructed a coalition with those 'transcended' populists, hence his support of Duke in the 90s, etc.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 11:00:34 PM »

where to start?

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Rothbard literally wrote the book on libertarianism transcending the left-right divide.  The author of this article is clueless.

That's paleolibertarianism which is synthesized with such populism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position

Actually, isolationism represents the Old Right, but he constructed a coalition with those 'transcended' populists, hence his support of Duke in the 90s, etc.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

But the idea all racialism on the American Right can be traced back to paleolibertarians is an, uh, interesting one.

I'm talking about the Ron Paul movement, that is where the origins of the Tea Party movement lies.  Ron Paul was even the original Koch-backed CSE politician.

The GOP co-opted the Ron Paul movement (which consisted of both libertarians and radicalists) with the Tea Party.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 11:24:33 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2016, 11:30:25 PM by uti2 »

Ahh yes. Libertarians. The most racist people since George Wallace. Damn. From what hole did you find that garbage?



The same hole Goldwater attracted when he opposed the Civil Rights Act and rationalized state segregation, every single Libertarian candidate with the exception of Johnson (and Feldman) opposed the CRA if you watched the last libertarian debate.

Anyway, if you look at the history of Rothbard and Paleolibertarianism, you'll see that Rothbard backed Duke in the 90s.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 11:10:02 PM »

Paleolibertarians are just social conservatives who want to be edgy and calling themselves libertarians instead of populist or ancaps

"I support high tariffs, and closed borders, but I'm totes a libertarian! Ron Paul 2012!" - Paleolibertarians

"I support big government military spending and believe in fantasies like trickle down economics instead of actually cutting spending (including on defense) to balance the budget, but I'm a libertarian 'Tea Partyer'!"

Both viewpoints are equally as inconsistent as the other.
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