Trump threatens to use Bill's sex scandal against Hillary

[Fuzzy Bear]

The issue Trump (or any other Republican) will have against Hillary is the fact that Hillary was complicit in helping to label as "nuts and sluts" all the women who made allegations that Bill Clinton had sex with them while married to Hillary, including those who alleged coercion.  Think about this for a moment when you consider how important the "gender gap" is to Democrats, and how driving that gap through the roof is a viable campaign strategy for them.  Think of how this will affect Hillary when Kathleen Willey's name is brought up during a discussion of the Violence Against Women Act.  Never mind that Willey's story contains inconsistencies; just wait until Trump portrays Hillary as doing Bill's dirty work in discrediting a sexual assault victim.

Does anyone here really think that stuff like this is beyond the pale for Donald Trump?  Donald Trump has convinced me that he knows more about politics than anyone in this race.  He knows what will play and what will drive his campaign, and he's not afraid of getting dirty because he's got a bigger mud bucket.  Hillary thinks she'll make mince meat out of the Neanderthal Trump, when, in fact, Trump is likely three jumps ahead of her.  Just like Obama was in 2008.  What Hillary doesn't get is that she (A) isn't as smart as Bill and (B) isn't the politician Bill is.

[Fuzzy Bear]

He goes further:

"If Hillary thinks she can unleash her husband, with his terrible record of women abuse, while playing the women's card on me, she's wrong!"

Yes you are right ... he does "go further."
Trump goes further on making himself look more like of an ass, than he already has.

What people don't get is that Trump is the only one trying to hold BILL Clinton accountable for his past actions, and the only way he can do this is by pre-empting a degree of the appeal for the Clintons (and they are, truly a "package deal") amongst women on the gender issues.  Violence against women is a real-world thing.  Even a liberal woman will be creeped out if she thinks long enough about some of what Bill Clinton allegedly did.  It wasn't a CAMPAIGN issue in the past; the Willey/Lewinsky/Tripp stuff happened after 1996.  But it WILL be a campaign issue now, thanks to Donald Trump.  Think about this, and the effect that this could possibly have.

[Fuzzy Bear]

He goes further:

"If Hillary thinks she can unleash her husband, with his terrible record of women abuse, while playing the women's card on me, she's wrong!"

Yes you are right ... he does "go further."
Trump goes further on making himself look more like of an ass, than he already has.

What people don't get is that Trump is the only one trying to hold BILL Clinton accountable for his past actions, and the only way he can do this is by pre-empting a degree of the appeal for the Clintons (and they are, truly a "package deal") amongst women on the gender issues.  Violence against women is a real-world thing.  Even a liberal woman will be creeped out if she thinks long enough about some of what Bill Clinton allegedly did.  It wasn't a CAMPAIGN issue in the past; the Willey/Lewinsky/Tripp stuff happened after 1996.  But it WILL be a campaign issue now, thanks to Donald Trump.  Think about this, and the effect that this could possibly have.

How far in time do we go back, and discuss such dinosaur issues, to "hold people accountable" ?
Should we go back and discuss Kennedy for his past (affairs) ?
Maybe early Presidents for having slaves ?
Should Trump discuss Barry Goldwater and his anti-segregation stance .... oh wait, Trump is also in the bigot arena ... scratch this one, Trump wouldn't use that tactic.

In any case this is an old issue. Bringing it up again, will just make people roll their eyes.
I also think it's a disgusting tactic, and people will only have less respect for Trump for doing it (if he has any respect left by the time the general election rolls around). The past "bad behavior" of Bill Clinton, should not be something used to attack or take advantage of, towards Hillary Clinton. What people fail to see, is that Hillary was the victim regarding Bill's actions. If you don't think that Hillary and hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of women who experience similar situations, endure emotional pain for the family, then you have no heart and soul (and to also consider the pain that their children also go through).

So women in the electorate will only relate more to what Hillary experienced. And then for women to hear someone else (Trump) mocking the whole situation for political gain, will only make women hate Trump even more. This is not really a safe, or in-play issue, for candidates to use. Kind of like attacking or using the other candidate's children for political points (an area the media and candidates know they should not do).

It's really disgusting if you think about it. (I'm a man, and I can see how rancid and hideous this strategy would be.) Would Trump do it ? Probably, being the scum bag that he is. Will it back-fire on Trump ? I say yes.

PS: If Hillary was the one committing affairs, then OK, she is a direct candidate for the office. But attacking and using other candidate's spouses and children, and somehow "twisting it" to relate to the presidential candidate, then No.

Will the women in the electorate relate to Hillary if her role in discrediting Bill's FEMALE accusers as "nuts and sluts" is brought up, highlighted, and new information brought to light on THAT aspect of the scandals?

The issue of Hillary Clinton choosing to be a spear carrier for her husband, and working actively to discredit women who claimed to be conned and/or coerced into sex with Bill Clinton, and (in one case) claiming to be forcibly groped, is not an issue Feminists and anti-Domestic Violence activists take lightly.  One thing these women are familiar with is male perpetrators of domestic violence who take no responsibility for their actions, who deny, accuse their accusers of lying and fabricating, and take the role of the victim for themselves.  That's what Bill Clinton did, after a lifetime of having sex with subordinates.  And he called in his aggrieved wife to do the dirty work, which she did not out of loyalty to Bill, but with one eye to her own ambitions.

What I think this issue will do is take some of the shine off of the "First Woman President" angle Hillary is staking out.  Women who want badly to see a female President were certainly not hoping that the one elected would turn out to be an apologize for a misogynist who, whatever his public policy positions, personally views women as little more than sex objects. 

[Fuzzy Bear]

“I got a chuckle out of all the moralists in Congress and in the media who expressed public outrage at the president’s immoral behavior,” wrote Trump in The America We Deserve . “I happen to know that one U.S. senator leading the pack of attackers spent more than a few nights with his twenty-something girlfriend at a hotel I own. There’s also a conservative columnist, married, who was particularly rough on Clinton in this regard. He also brought his girlfriend to my resorts for the weekend. Their hypocrisy is amazing.”  - Trump

Trump also wrote that Clinton should have refused to talk about his personal life.
“When confronted with the Lewinsky matter, Clinton should have stoutly refused to discuss his private life,” wrote Trump. “He should also have declined to answer, rather than perjure himself. If the Clinton affair proves anything it is that the American people don’t care about the private lives and personal of our political leaders so long as they are doing the job.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-defended-clinton-during-lewinsky-scandal-against-moral#.liN0VGAj2

The American People care greatly about the private lives of the opposition party's politicians.  They hope the sleaziest dirt comes out so their candidate can win, and America will either be saved from the reign of Satan's Disciples, or from Neanderthals who wish to repeal the 20th and 21st centuries.  That's how divided we are.  The American People hunger for dirt on the opposition to reinforce their view that they are right in what they, personally, believe.

Having said that, Feminists and Domestic Violence advocated care very much how politicians react to allegations of Sexual Misconduct and Sexual Assault aimed at public figures.  They are very much victim's advocates, and they have, for DECADES, pushed to ensure that victims' allegations are listened to, not dismissed out of hand, and the process in meting out justice and/or correction does not put the VICTIM on trial.  I can't begin to emphasize the BIG deal this is to such folks. 

That being said, when Hillary Clinton's record of being complicit in attacking the credibility of Bill Clinton's alleged victims, these Feminists, and anti-DV advocates' credibility is on the line.  All of it.  There will be the issue of their being Special Rules for Special People when it comes to Hillary Clinton.  Donald Trump will bring this up.  And it will be the Feminists and the anti-Domestic Violence activists whose credibility will be on the line.  Most of these folks recognize that Hillary will, once in office, do what they want (just as Bob Packwood did), so they're not going to back a Republican.  But it will make things awkward.  It will dampen enthusiasm.  And, most of all, it will put a limit to just how far the Democrats can drive the gender gap upward.