Should the US place trade sanctions on Ecuador to force them to release Assange?
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Question: Should the US place trade sanctions on Ecuador to force them to release Assange?
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2016, 10:47:39 PM »

That one only makes the US look petty and impotent. It will only increase Correa's popularity as he's standing up - and winning - to Yankee imperialism.

Besides, I doubt BRTD really wants the US to be in the same company as the USSR, People's Republic of China, Taliban Afghanistan, or South American military dictatorships in confining people to embassies for years.
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2016, 10:49:25 PM »

That one only makes the US look petty and impotent. It will only increase Correa's popularity as he's standing up - and winning - to Yankee imperialism.

Besides, I doubt BRTD really wants the US to be in the same company as the USSR, People's Republic of China, Taliban Afghanistan, or South American military dictatorships in confining people to embassies for years.

The UK and Sweden are doing that, not the US. And it's not on trumped up political charges.
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2016, 10:57:04 PM »

But I thought BRTD loves Latin American leftist governments (which are relatively democratic).

Assange is obviously not leftist, as he's supporting Trump and is a Putin puppet. He's therefore right-wing. And thus all other governments that support are right-wing as well.
Impeccable logic.

Wulfric logic, no less.
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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2016, 11:05:20 PM »

The release of these charges seem rather suspiciously timed. The more suave of dictatorships, instead of prosecuting dissidents for obviously political matters like subversion or treason, use more common charges instead (see Putin's opponents getting suspiciously timed tax audits, Singaporean bloggers getting jailed for inciting religious hatred, Anwar Ibrahim from Malaysia being constantly prosecuted for sodomy, Chinese dissidents put under house arrest for breaching the peace, etc).

It's especially galling because at one point, the British government threatened to storm the embassy Iran-style to arrest him. This is the sort of thing that rallies an entire nation around the government.
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2016, 11:06:57 PM »

Having him stay in their embassy is punishment enuf for Ecuador.  And since it's a self-imposed punishment, they can end it anytime they wish.
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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2016, 11:31:18 PM »

The release of these charges seem rather suspiciously timed. The more suave of dictatorships, instead of prosecuting dissidents for obviously political matters like subversion or treason, use more common charges instead (see Putin's opponents getting suspiciously timed tax audits, Singaporean bloggers getting jailed for inciting religious hatred, Anwar Ibrahim from Malaysia being constantly prosecuted for sodomy, Chinese dissidents put under house arrest for breaching the peace, etc).

It's especially galling because at one point, the British government threatened to storm the embassy Iran-style to arrest him. This is the sort of thing that rallies an entire nation around the government.

Sweden is a dictatorship?
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2016, 11:40:55 PM »

I like Rafael Correa, and his government, so no. Trade Sanctions, in this scenario is an act of imperialism in disguise, and could take precedent for having sanctions on other leftist governments.

Gotta love, denying people the right of national sovereignty, and imposing sanctions on a government, cripple the nation's economy and their people, for country that has done very little wrong.

Of course, Assange is a horrible person, and they need to convince Ecuador, and try to bring Assange to justice, but sanctions are not the answer, and this is very small in the scope of things.
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2016, 07:06:19 PM »

lol
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2016, 10:12:22 PM »

Maybe not, but suspiciously timed charges of a common crime is a tactic Putin would be proud of.
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2016, 03:05:11 PM »

Grant Assange immunity from prosecution by the United States and United Kingdom so long as he heads back to Sweden to stand trial.

He won't accept it, of course, but it shows who really has the moral high ground.
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2016, 03:36:49 PM »

Yes. I would favor all US aid and commerce to Ecuador being immediately cut, all US companies banned from doing business there, a ban on Ecuadorian citizens from entering the country and the immediate deportation of all Ecuadorian nationals.

this is my opinion.
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2016, 06:29:30 PM »

Maybe not, but suspiciously timed charges of a common crime is a tactic Putin would be proud of.

oh come on
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2016, 06:31:40 PM »

Just arrange an unfortunate accident to occur the next time he makes a public balcony appearance.
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2016, 06:47:39 PM »

Just arrange an unfortunate accident to occur the next time he makes a public balcony appearance.

Like a piano falling on him, possibly from a helicopter?
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2016, 07:28:05 PM »

Just arrange an unfortunate accident to occur the next time he makes a public balcony appearance.

Like a piano falling on him, possibly from a helicopter?

Not condoning extrajudicial murder, but this would be kind of awesome tbh.
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2016, 11:39:57 PM »

Just arrange an unfortunate accident to occur the next time he makes a public balcony appearance.

Like a piano falling on him, possibly from a helicopter?

Not condoning extrajudicial murder, but this would be kind of awesome tbh.

We can hire noted ACME assassin, Wile E. Coyote.
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2016, 12:17:27 AM »

I voted yes, but before I read the proposals in the OP.

I support economic sanctions against left-wing radical Rafael Correa's regime until he stops harboring an infoterrorist who is actively hurting US security. I do not support the bizarre proposed actions against the citizens of Ecuador, especially those in this country or seeking to come here.

Pretty much this.
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2016, 12:02:38 PM »


Yeah!

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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2016, 07:18:44 PM »

No that'll make us look bad and send a message to anti-USA provocateurs that their strategy is working.
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2016, 09:56:41 PM »

No (sane, doesn't hate Ecuador)
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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2016, 12:54:52 AM »

For the record I'd like to renounce my made in sheer rage statements here, especially since it's clear that Assange is utterly harmless at this point and is nothing more than an attention whoring troll, who is only harming the people delusional enough to still pay him attention and buy his stupid book. Even Alex Jones has now called him out as such.
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2016, 12:44:24 PM »

For the record I'd like to renounce my made in sheer rage statements here, especially since it's clear that Assange is utterly harmless at this point and is nothing more than an attention whoring troll, who is only harming the people delusional enough to still pay him attention and buy his stupid book. Even Alex Jones has now called him out as such.

Glad about that! Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2016, 12:57:02 PM »


Tell that to the homosexual Muslims

(But muh Trump will destroy the world)
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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2016, 02:43:16 PM »

Just arrange an unfortunate accident to occur the next time he makes a public balcony appearance.

Like a piano falling on him, possibly from a helicopter?
No.  This.

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