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RINO Tom
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« on: August 17, 2016, 12:44:29 PM »

Romney won WWC voters and White college graduates by similar margins.  And he lost.

Good luck replicating that second margin, Trumpy.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 01:06:54 PM »

Minorities exist too, in case you had forgotten

I hope you're not talking to me...

Romney got crushed with minority voters of all social statuses, whereas he won Whites of all social statuses; Trump is doing horribly with educated Whites, and I doubt his bounce among WCWs is going to even come close to counteracting that, which is what this topic is about.  No one thought he'd make any inroads with any minorities.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 02:20:07 PM »


He responded right after me and I mentioned Whites specifically, it wouldn't take a moron to pose my question...
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 03:56:30 PM »

WWC Democrats still very much exist, but they are probably the most silent of any voting group.

How does this forum even define "WWC Democrats"? I'm pretty sure I'd fit this definition, yet multiple people here call me an elitist latte liberal because I bash racist hicks. Roll Eyes

According to many people here, you can only be a "white male working class Democrat" if you're a Santander clone...either his past or present incarnation.

It's based on income level, occupation, and family or cultural background. Either one or a combination of the three.

I make $11/hour doing manual labor in the backroom at Target, my mother is a secretary, and my stepdad is a security guard. So yeah, I'm fairly sure I'd fit this definition.

Of course, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that most Atlasians from their ivory towers think all the little people are equivalent to racist hicks, and that if you bash them, you MUST implicitly be a classist elitist who hates all working class whites. "Bashing racist hicks vs. bashing the white working class? What's the difference?!" says Marie Antonionette and Thomas XVI of Illinois.

The irony is thick and the projection is real.

How dare you.  I'm the first of my name.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2016, 09:38:56 PM »

Yep. More and more, I think that the realignment we will see over the next ten years will fall cleanly into the two camps of smart and dumb. I don't apologize for painting it that way, either. The scary thing is, it means dumb will win half the time on average. What happens then?

You don't have to apologize, I just think you're wrong.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 09:54:09 PM »

In this country we generally define "working-class" as "less than a bachelor's degree", which is an imperfect measure - there's no well-defined sense of class like in some other countries, and no ABCD social strata scheme.

That said, Obama, won both "college graduate" and "not college graduate" categories in 2012 and 2008.

I'm pretty sure Romney won college grads, didn't he...?
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2016, 09:59:48 PM »

Wasn't sure, I trust your findings.  Either way, a winning Republican nationally would win college grads, as would a winning Democrat under normal circumstances.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2016, 09:49:10 AM »

Also worth noting is that the "status" of being "a college grad" has changed a lot over time and will continue to change.  The Americans who made up the college graduate population in the 1980s was a lot wealthier and a LOT Whiter than the group is now.  Saying "Reagan won postgrads" should not conjur up images of academics and psychologists voting for him, haha.
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